What Sled was the Biggest Gamechanger in History?
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You really should review the history. Its common industry knowledge that the Blade paved a path for centralized mass in the chassis. Don't base your judgement on the single picture shown. The concept of the Blade was to move the engine lower and centralize as much of the weight as possible, and keep the rotating mass low in the chassis to avoid gyroscopic effects. This is why the engine was mounted backward.
The rear frame is a pyramid, bolted to a front frame pyramid. Call it a "box," or a pyramid, or whatever you like. As noted earlier, "rider forward" is a marketing concept because it sounds better and makes it easy for the layman user to understand what is happening to the rider position in relation to the significant change in weight distribution. The concept from all of this was moving the weight forward and down in the chassis, whether the Rev looks exactly like the Blade or not. Look at the brake disc on the blade driveshaft. Mount a guard on it and you have the the Ski Doo 6 years later.
It's all right here, direct from Gerald Karpik himself, if you are still not a believer: https://snowgoer.com/snowmobile-features/fasts-blade-10-years-later/2655/
Pedaling pete
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Yeah I can maybe give them credit for centralized mass. But not the pyramidal frame design.
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I can agree that warranty might be an issue. You "are" taking motor bike engine that is built primarily for relatively HOT temperatures and making it run in a deep freeze. I have found that my repair bills to fun Factor ratio has changed dramatically. If I fall off the bike it usually ends up only a few feet away, I am not watching it roll or continue on its merry way down the hill. It is the same with bikes as sleds if you look at the tree you will run into said tree. I think the builders of the track kits have upped their game with reliable units for the average guy. If you want you can begin the process of modification same as sleds. I am not in the know but would expect a specific motor to come out in a few years for the bikes. I find the 450cc motor gets me around in the trees just fine but if your more into the open areas well then more power and more gears are needed. Personally very interested to see what is coming in the future. Heck if they make the sleds narrower they may as well just have one ski and everyone will say what took them so long.
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2005 M7 gets my vote. That little 700 made a lot guys who spent thousands on there sleds look silly! This was my 2006 M7 SnoPro, the only thing they needed was reverse!!!
M7 was a great sled. Still have mine. Was even better as a 174.
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Joholio
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Interesting schtuff
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KatMan
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i agree with alot of your points.
Really all you need to do to improve on a snow bike is have 2 skis in front.
and a bigger engine
and a longer, wider track
and a pyramid design
and a muff pot,,,
Kibbels
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March 1971 - The unveiling of the Kitty Kat..!!
Bernoff
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Ya I could really do with the Kick Ass Muffpot
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snopro
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Lol. Who is doing the marketing/advertising for Tim's now? Who runs a commercial saying we want to try something different with your brekky sandwich this morning and put a real egg in it instead of the powdered ones we have been pedalling to you for years? And now the new dark roast commercial where they say after 7 yrs they finally got the blend correct? Not really inspires me to eat there. What else are we eating there that is fake food?
imdoo'n
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the greatest sled in all time Snow and Mud history was Joey's Phazer, that thing could hit a 100mph. caused more heart attacks on sno n mud than any other. kept the boys busy for months. Bogs is still getting over the mental anguish lol.
mxz800x
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do you own that sled. It looks awesome?
Wait... Tim Horton's has food.... and coffee?? LOL
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I think the biggest Gamechanger was that the snowmobile industry closed in on the aftermarket manufacturers and offered things like extrovert drivers, roller secondaries, better piping, ergos, risers, running boards... etc.
Back to the topic:
I think the biggest Gamechanger was that the snowmobile industry closed in on the aftermarket manufacturers and offered things like extrovert drivers, roller secondaries, better piping, ergos, risers, running boards... etc.
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Yup every model change was always a bit better but the Turbo was a lot better.
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No it's not mine. Sorry to say this, I hated the Ski Doo Nordic for how it, (and some others), changed snowmobiling. I see some here one found an old Phazer and are really pleased with it. My son bought a new Phazer when they came out in 1984 and my 1971 Moto-Ski Zephyr would run circles around it in the snow. I have an old Phazer which I modified a bit for snow.
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