Another Deck Question

nathan#19 · Jul 29, 2018

Thanks for that helpfull quote dave. I am in exactly the position you outlined. I have been using superclamps for 3 years on my 4 place trailer and had never actually checked the ratings. . Due to this conversation I have realised the error of my ways. I actually CHECKED what they are rated for.

My Superclamp says right on it "FOR OFF ROAD USE ONLY".

The national safety code expressly prohibits the use of an un-rated securement device.

I am flabbergasted that this product is so widely used and accepted as a securement ,when it has no WLL posted on it as is clearly required on any and every securement as noted in the code.
And don't tell me you are only using them off road.

skegpro · Jul 29, 2018

nathan#19 said:
Thanks for that helpfull quote dave. I am in exactly the position you outlined. I have been using superclamps for 3 years on my 4 place trailer and had never actually checked the ratings. . Due to this conversation I have realised the error of my ways. I actually CHECKED what they are rated for.

My Superclamp says right on it "FOR OFF ROAD USE ONLY".

The national safety code expressly prohibits the use of an un-rated securement device.

I am flabbergasted that this product is so widely used and accepted as a securement ,when it has no WLL posted on it as is clearly required on any and every securement as noted in the code.
And don't tell me you are only using them off road.

So when does the class action lawsuit start?

I feel like I was miss led when I bought these.

Pretty shadey.

Teth-Air · Jul 30, 2018

The Super-clamp is the best device on the market for holding down sleds securely. The fact that it is not "rated" does not mean it is inferior it only is a reflection of how small the sledding market is and how unique sleds are for securing in place. Go ahead and use 4 "approved" tie downs. Where are you attaching them to? Maybe a fibreglass Polaris bumper or a G4 bulkhead?? Anyway I have seen a trailer flipped on its side and the 2 sleds held down with Super-clamps did not move. I have also picked sleds off the road that were tied down with "approved" devices. You can struggle with frozen tie downs just because they are "approved" if you want. I trust my personal rating system better than some government body that validates these things with unrelated specifications. In addition isn't the National Safety Code something more related to commercial drivers and commercial size loads?

ferniesnow · Jul 30, 2018

Here is a link to an earlier thread on the same subject. Interesting read. My older SuperClamps are not rated nor do they say "off-road use only". I have 100% faith in the holding ability of my clamps (front and rear) but I have lots of track on my deck. I often wonder and am amazed at what one sees in the staging areas with short decks/long sleds/ramps/tie downs/etc.....

https://www.snowandmud.com/just-abo...-securement.html?highlight=rating+SuperClamps

pfi572 · Jul 30, 2018

Super clamp and the people that own operate it are top notch.
If more company’s looked after customers and back there products like these folks it would be awesome.
Some dumb **** wants to use a 7 ft deck for a 13 ft long sled and then cry when machine falls off because they think it’s not strong enough ?
Whatever . Lol

skegpro · Jul 30, 2018

Teth-Air said:
The Super-clamp is the best device on the market for holding down sleds securely. The fact that it is not "rated" does not mean it is inferior it only is a reflection of how small the sledding market is and how unique sleds are for securing in place. Go ahead and use 4 "approved" tie downs. Where are you attaching them to? Maybe a fibreglass Polaris bumper or a G4 bulkhead?? Anyway I have seen a trailer flipped on its side and the 2 sleds held down with Super-clamps did not move. I have also picked sleds off the road that were tied down with "approved" devices. You can struggle with frozen tie downs just because they are "approved" if you want. I trust my personal rating system better than some government body that validates these things with unrelated specifications. In addition isn't the National Safety Code something more related to commercial drivers and commercial size loads?

Oh I agree they are good.

So why don't they remove the "for off-road use only" statement?

JMCX · Jul 30, 2018

So when you buy a sled trailer and it comes with simple tubular steel/aluminum ski tie downs do you see a load rating on them? You will have to pry my Superclamps from my dead hands lol

LennyR · Jul 31, 2018

The super clamps are awesome product , if the user has a clue . I think the rating system should not apply to the tie down , but to the user. If your driving capabilities limit you to a truck that can only accept a 6 or 7 ft deck, I suggest you only be "rated " to ride a 153. That way you won't have the deck end under your drivers , and then get into silly discussions about whether the tie down system you're using is good enough !!!!!

skegpro · Jul 31, 2018

Just heard Valemount cops are going to be writing tickets for on highway super clamp use.

Rene G · Jul 31, 2018

skegpro said:
Just heard Valemount cops are going to be writing tickets for on highway super clamp use.

That would be ridiculous...

pfi572 · Jul 31, 2018

Rene G said:
That would be ridiculous...

Someone stirring the pot .

Bnorth · Aug 1, 2018

skegpro said:
Just heard Valemount cops are going to be writing tickets for on highway super clamp use.

CVSE at Tete Jaune

skegpro · Aug 4, 2018

Bnorth said:
CVSE at Tete Jaune

Pairs nicely with a light bar, trailer break away or sled deck overhang ticket.

Teth-Air · Aug 14, 2018

skegpro said:
Oh I agree they are good.

So why don't they remove the "for off-road use only" statement?

It's all about liability. Randall doesn't want to deal with a stupid lawsuit because some idiot mis-uses his product. This way it is all on the user and not the manufacturer. If you are not confident enough to know your load is secure you should probably stay home. If anyone is worried just use the Superclamp and then put some approved tie downs on for a back-up.

Its like a trailer hitch that rarely fails but if it does hopefully you have safety chains.

skegpro · Aug 14, 2018

Teth-Air said:
It's all about liability. Randall doesn't want to deal with a stupid lawsuit because some idiot mis-uses his product. This way it is all on the user and not the manufacturer. If you are not confident enough to know your load is secure you should probably stay home. If anyone is worried just use the Superclamp and then put some approved tie downs on for a back-up.

Its like a trailer hitch that rarely fails but if it does hopefully you have safety chains.

So say you are in an accident.

Sled flys off the deck and kills someone.

You are found liable because your are using a device which explicitly states not for highway use.

You are cool with that?

Superclamp · Aug 14, 2018

Hello everyone -the "off road use only" marking was put in place to meet requirements in some European countries a few years ago but it has since been removed from all Suerclamps for some time. Both front and rear Superclamps are in fact DOT compliant meeting all requirements in all jurisdictions in North America.

And remember you are required to also secure the rear of your snowmobile. So this means the front clamp must be used in conjunction with a rear Superclamp or an appropriate tie down strap.

If anyone ever has any concerns or questions about Superclamp products, please call us directly - 403-203-2210.

Thank you!

pfi572 · Aug 14, 2018

Like I said earlier???
Class act company.

skegpro · Aug 14, 2018

Superclamp said:
Hello everyone -the "off road use only" marking was put in place to meet requirements in some European countries a few years ago but it has since been removed from all Suerclamps for some time. Both front and rear Superclamps are in fact DOT compliant meeting all requirements in all jurisdictions in North America.

And remember you are required to also secure the rear of your snowmobile. So this means the front clamp must be used in conjunction with a rear Superclamp or an appropriate tie down strap.

If anyone ever has any concerns or questions about Superclamp products, please call us directly - 403-203-2210.

Thank you!

Do you have a letter a stating this so that when I get stopped by a very nice police officer I don't get a ticket.
Or for insurance purposes.

I'd buy a new set of front and rear superclamps but it seems a little extravagant to get rid of those three words.

Dawizman · Aug 14, 2018

Removed

Teth-Air · Aug 15, 2018

skegpro said:
So say you are in an accident.

Sled flys off the deck and kills someone.

You are found liable because your are using a device which explicitly states not for highway use.

You are cool with that?

I am confident that the sled is less likely to move than the entire sled deck of a guy who just uses turnbuckles to hold it in.

Ultimately you are responsible for your load PERIOD.

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