Turbo 900 Skidoo

maierch · Feb 20, 2018

skegpro said:
But this 4stroke is 100lbs heavier with similar power to an 850 at 6500ft.

Not Quite. The claimed weight difference between the 2 Stroke and 4 Stroke versions of the Renegade is 41lbs and your 850 is at about 130 HP at 6500 feet. See below.

HP Loss = (elevation x 0.03 x horsepower @ sea level)/1000

32.175 = (6500 x .03 x 165(claimed)) / 1000

132.8 HP @ 6500 FT

maxwell · Feb 20, 2018

fredw said:
What a joke.. 150hp, make more out of a stock n/a 800etec

as said for last five years, make a dam two stroke turbo kit once from factory, doo is failing behind, I hope cat comes out with one, doo needs direction

doo is falling behind......because the other 2 have 2 stroke turbos? lol

fredw · Feb 20, 2018

Maybe we should wait till after there release to see who has the last laught..

LBZ · Feb 20, 2018

Longevity of a 4s over a 2s is the only advantage I see with this 900. And maybe fuel economy. As for power it obviously won't touch the sw RTX, STX, etc models that already rip and there are already 2s models that run 160hp in the trail sleds so I don't really see the point of this engine.

I think Doo missed the boat and should have worked at getting a bigger hp 4s model stuffed into a mountain chassis. They would have to figure out how to build a clutch first though I suppose.

pfi572 · Feb 20, 2018

Why would you spend that kind of coin on a 900 T when you could have the SW ? Just asking .
I know what I would be purchasing.

Lund · Feb 20, 2018

Interesting.
Unfortunately, i don't see this being even a contender in the mountain's for a few good reasons.
One is BRP has always been reluctant about giving access to their ecu programs. Tuner's have always had a hard time cracking into them and 150hp isn't going to cut it if they are going to attract mountain 4 stroke riders.
Another point is cost, in the past BRP 4 strokes have been very expensive to power up reliability. Such as clutching, past BRP clutches would come apart or have been known to, when pushing the 200+hp, i don't see the 850 clutch being any better.
Thats my first impression, i could be wrong, i would like to see one built for mountains. But i think only a yellow blooded person, high on Doolaid would do that.
Again i would like someone to prove me wrong on that.
I think it will be an awesome trail sled.

oler1234 · Feb 20, 2018

LBZ said:
Longevity of a 4s over a 2s is the only advantage I see with this 900. And maybe fuel economy. As for power it obviously won't touch the sw RTX, STX, etc models that already rip and there are already 2s models that run 160hp in the trail sleds so I don't really see the point of this engine.

I think Doo missed the boat and should have worked at getting a bigger hp 4s model stuffed into a mountain chassis. They would have to figure out how to build a clutch first though I suppose.

Really?? the etec is into 10,000km before rebuild is necessary. how much more does a person need,

Lund · Feb 20, 2018

oler1234 said:
Really?? the etec is into 10,000km before rebuild is necessary. how much more does a person need,

IMO that is abit of a misnomer, the mileage one get's from a motor is directly related to its use. At WOT with an aggressive riding big dude slaying chutes that motor won't live long.
While string bean boy ripping around will make it go longer.
If i saw a 10,000km 2stroke of any make, i'ed be heading the other way or thinking that's done a lot of trails and not a lot of real mountain riding.

LBZ · Feb 21, 2018

oler1234 said:
Really?? the etec is into 10,000km before rebuild is necessary. how much more does a person need,

I think you have one too many 0 in there. I don't know a soul that makes that many km before doing at least a top end by half that many km. Really playing with fire with a 2s pushing 5k unmolested let alone 10k. Yes maybe a few people have done it. The majority, not a chance.

Allseasons · Feb 21, 2018

fredw said:
Is that why sales are dropping off Ken.. Not listening to there customers!!

Im not sure if you’ve been on a hill lately, but of my 15 days on the hill, I see about 10-1 average out there (Doo vs Competition). There are F***in Doo 850s everywhere out there. Can’t imagine sales are dropping, and if they are, it would be the industry as a whole

i also can see this trail sled sell like hot cakes

MK4TDI · Feb 21, 2018

LBZ said:
I think you have one too many 0 in there. I don't know a soul that makes that many km before doing at least a top end by half that many km. Really playing with fire with a 2s pushing 5k unmolested let alone 10k. Yes maybe a few people have done it. The majority, not a chance.

I thought RGM put 10000km on his xm before it let go, can't recall if he did a top end in it or not though.

tex78 · Feb 21, 2018

MK4TDI said:
I thought RGM put 10000km on his xm before it let go, can't recall if he did a top end in it or not though.

If I recall at 10000 km the top end went, then crank at 15000 km

Lund · Feb 21, 2018

Ya, my wife put a poop load of miles on her sled too....lol
It was 9,000 miles not kilometres when I got rid of it.
Maybe 15% of those were WOT, the rest well you get the picture.
She loves to ride hahaha

Bnorth · Feb 22, 2018

LBZ said:
Longevity of a 4s over a 2s is the only advantage I see with this 900. And maybe fuel economy. As for power it obviously won't touch the sw RTX, STX, etc models that already rip and there are already 2s models that run 160hp in the trail sleds so I don't really see the point of this engine.

I think Doo missed the boat and should have worked at getting a bigger hp 4s model stuffed into a mountain chassis. They would have to figure out how to build a clutch first though I suppose.

They'll sell a pile out east. Trail guys love the 4 stroke fuel mileage and not having to pack oil. Plus a lot of them don't want a hyper sled like the Sidewinder. This motor basically replaces the 1200 but is lighter and packaged better so will be better handling and easier to power up. Most of the big mile trail guys don't want the maintenance that comes with 2 strokes.

LBZ · Feb 22, 2018

Bnorth said:
They'll sell a pile out east. Trail guys love the 4 stroke fuel mileage and not having to pack oil. Plus a lot of them don't want a hyper sled like the Sidewinder. This motor basically replaces the 1200 but is lighter and packaged better so will be better handling and easier to power up. Most of the big mile trail guys don't want the maintenance that comes with 2 strokes.

I didn't see many 4s sleds when I lived out east. Most people had poo and doo 2s. A few guys had cats. A mix of 600 but mostly 800cc machines.

I was told it was because they traded up every couple years anyways so it didn't make sense to spend the extra dough on a 4s.

fredw · Feb 22, 2018

Purchased a x3 side by last this spring.. Even that comes out of the gate with 172 hp and with just a ecm tune can take you to 200hp.. Why the hell would brp not do the same thing to this ace, since it's the same motor as the x3..

could of been a sweet mountsin sled to the sidewinder if they had done there homework.. Flat landers will be happy with the lower hp thou

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