2019 Release Conversation

ferniesnow · Feb 7, 2018

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skegpro said:
If you spin the clutches faster the fins on the clutch cool better. Duh

Sounds like something Dagg44 would present in conjunction with proper calibration. lol

I doo like your humour.

High Velocity · Feb 7, 2018

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Merc63 said:
That doesn't make it a "stroker"... a stoker in the performance world is taking an engine with the original crank and adding long rods to increase the stroke. This can throw off the balance as the crank was designed with counter weights for the original stroke. I'd assume brp designed a new crank for this 850, making it a completely new engine and not a stoker. Just because the bore is the same and the stroke is increased, doesn't classify it as a stroker engine.

Longer rods don’t increase stroke. Only a change to the crankshaft will increase or decrease stroke.

skegpro · Feb 7, 2018

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So I am gonna go out on a limb and say the 850 is a stroker.......??????

https://youtu.be/ewvy1n3XMQs

machinehead · Feb 7, 2018

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High Velocity said:
Longer rods don’t increase stroke. Only a change to the crankshaft will increase or decrease stroke.

Correct ...........

ssjrmk · Feb 7, 2018

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I think OEM Turbo 2 strokes are in the near future . There is not a lot left that they can do. They’ve already lightened them as much as they seem to want to take them and they don’t seem to want to put much bigger cc engines in so I feel turbos are what’s next. As for cost it wasn’t that long ago that we were paying 9 to 10 thousand for a sled, and now we’re paying 16 to 17 thousand so I don’t think 20+ is going to make a difference. Just my opinion.

Foxstar45 · Feb 7, 2018

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I always thought 'stroker' was a term describing a mod, not a completely new stock engine that happens to have the same bore. The 850 isn't just an 800R with a longer stroke like they did with the 800 V twin ATV engine to make it a 1000, is it?

deaner · Feb 7, 2018

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I thought they would have looked at a fuel injected triple before releasing a stock 2 stroke turbo. With modern technology you would think they would be pretty bulletproof and be able to make some big power. Yes they dont compensate for altitude, but remember that the majority of snowmobile buyers are not riding at altitude. I think a 2S-T would be a nightmare for a manufacturer.

LBZ · Feb 8, 2018

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skegpro said:
So I am gonna go out on a limb and say the 850 is a stroker.......??????

https://youtu.be/ewvy1n3XMQs

If it's got the same case, jugs, piston and rods (so far as dimensions are concerned) and all that's changed was the crank then yes it would be. I don't believe this is the case however.

Halon60 · Feb 8, 2018

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No one gives a **** about the 850. This thread went to **** real quick.

Lund · Feb 8, 2018

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skegpro said:
If you spin the clutches faster the fins on the clutch cool better. Duh

You must of gotten into some Doolaid for that comment, your starting to sound like a Dootard.

Maybe a new look for the Doo would be a good change for 2019. What an ugly duck...quack, quack

NoBrakes! · Feb 8, 2018

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Foxstar45 said:
I always thought 'stroker' was a term describing a mod, not a completely new stock engine that happens to have the same bore. The 850 isn't just an 800R with a longer stroke like they did with the 800 V twin ATV engine to make it a 1000, is it?

A stroker is any engine with added stroke from stock. 350 with a 400 crank and .030 overbore gets you the "383 stroker" everyone knows.

NoBrakes! · Feb 8, 2018

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Halon60 said:
No one gives a **** about the 850. This thread went to **** real quick.

Not true, even the cat threads turn into 850 threads. We all secretly want it to work

Foxstar45 · Feb 8, 2018

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So I wasn't wrong then.

NoBrakes! · Feb 8, 2018

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Foxstar45 said:
So I wasn't wrong then.

I believe the 850 is different cases/jugs/pistons than 800 etec no? Making it a new engine with the same bore and longer stroke as I see it.

Foxstar45 · Feb 8, 2018

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Re read my post.

NoBrakes! · Feb 8, 2018

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Foxstar45 said:
Re read my post.

We are agreeing. Back on track, sorry

deaner · Feb 8, 2018

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Who cares whether it is "technically" a stroker or not? Same bore, longer stroke, different engine.....done.

To those who know more about engine building than I (which would be most), would a V triple be feasible? What if the engine was slightly V'd with the center cylinder sitting slightly forward, and outside cylinders sitting slightly backwards (or vice versa) to be able to narrow the engine up a bit to fit in modern mountain chassis'? You would be decreasing the bore size from the big twin, so the combination of smaller bores with offset cylinders could in theory produce a high powered triple that is the same width?

skegpro · Feb 8, 2018

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Lund said:
You must of gotten into some Doolaid for that comment, your starting to sound like a Dootard.

Maybe a new look for the Doo would be a good change for 2019. What an ugly duck...quack, quack

I am trying to get a job with BRP marketing or take Narona's job.

Can your sled do this?

If it can pop off concrete like that just imagine how it gets up in top of the snow.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Be4Cbgkns2B/

Teth-Air · Feb 8, 2018

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deaner said:
Who cares whether it is "technically" a stroker or not? Same bore, longer stroke, different engine.....done.

To those who know more about engine building than I (which would be most), would a V triple be feasible? What if the engine was slightly V'd with the center cylinder sitting slightly forward, and outside cylinders sitting slightly backwards (or vice versa) to be able to narrow the engine up a bit to fit in modern mountain chassis'? You would be decreasing the bore size from the big twin, so the combination of smaller bores with offset cylinders could in theory produce a high powered triple that is the same width?

Sure anything can be done but the fuel injection and exhaust would be a nightmare to layout compare to what is status quo.

NoBrakes! · Feb 8, 2018

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Like the w12 shape but 3 cylinders dean?

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