aerocharger woes...

Nope wasnt the turbo. Wasn`t anything that I tried.. Pretty much threw 4000.00 to the fire trying to figure it out.. Aero said it had to be my sled itself.. Pulled the kit put sled to stock, ran the crap out of it for a month, proved the sled ran great. Turned out that the wiring harness from aero for the new controller was bad. Obviously not to much care and control goes into the building of the boxes. First controller box was plain and simple bad. How I figured it out was I took the harness to mountain magic and compaired wire to wire and clip to clip against a new one out of the box and low and behold one injector clip had the wires installed dislexic and was shorting out the system. So now 5 months later its finally on and working. Good luck figuring out your problem dont bother calling aero for help they dont know jack sh$t.

I just wanted to make a few points about how i feel about all of this. People that read this thread may think i'm bashing aero. I do have a few problems with thier mentality. I do really like my aero kit now that its up and running again.
When I say don't call them for info on your sled problems they don't know crap is mainly because they are a thousand miles from here. But here's a question for brad at aero? Why do your supposed dealers of your product have no troubleshooting knowledge? How come when you open up a guy to sell your stuff you dont supply them with any tools to do there job? Spare turbo? Electronics? wiring? How can a guy figure out whats going wrong if they cant even switch out a part to figure out whats bad? Why did my dealer put my sled in the corner for a month? If the guy I was dealing with had any of those things obviously the problem would have been figured out quickly and efficiently. I wouldnt have sent a working turbo to you as per the dealers thoughts (grasping at straws) to wait two months to find out it wasn't the problem. Or wasted hundreds of dollars buying factory sensors on your recomendation and after calling every supposed dealer in western canada get the same answer. No sorry we dont have a spare harness or nope we dont have a spare turbo for troubleshooting etc. A person buying your kit would never know this stuff untill theres a problem. Also your website needs to be updated, ie: installation instructions, for map sensor procedure and new controller setup instructions. Five months down no real help, frustrating to say the least. Your real good at producing and selling now time to pull up the slack in the service dept.. Now would I buy another of these kits? Ya I would, but I would want a deep discount. Cuz I feel you owe me!

Geeze I wouldn't wish this upon my worst enemy


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id like to see the response u get from the aero guys to that. just curios as to whatg they have to say

I'm not looking for anything from them, I'm just stating how it went for me and if my story helps one other guy from not having to go through missing pretty much a whole riding season is the idea. I don't know how many kits a year they sell and if they are having any problems. But if i'm 1 in a hundred then thats still 1% and thats still not good enough. I got a few free stickers for my kids from them so I'm happy lol Happy sledding, the last month of hero snow.

Just to be clear, Mountain Magic did not do the install nor have we seen this particular snowmobile. All we did was trouble shoot a problem with the kit when asked. We had a spare harness in stock compare and provided instructions for installation of the new generation control boxes as the install also was not done correctly.

Bruce

Many thanks to mountain magic for putting an end to my problems.

Hey sick1, I've been in contact with you off and on, and I'd like to personally say I'm stoked to hear your sled is back up and running. I know it's been a frustrating process to say the least, and we're glad you're able to get out and ride now. If you need any other recommendations for your setup now that it's on the snow, give us a call and we'd be happy to help you out.

You're absolutely right that service ultimately makes the difference between companies. Our snowmobile product lines are maturing and this season in particular we saw a big uptick in calls about installing used Aerocharger systems, as in your case. We're happy to take these calls - used Aerocharger kits generally have a long life span, and we want to see our systems set up and working like they should. At the Aerocharger shop, we had extra staff this season to handle customer service and streamline support. We've found that most troubleshooting can be solved with a single phone call, and that helps avoid frustration and gets everyone riding faster.

Obviously communication can always be improved on. As I understand it, your turbo came in to the shop with an order for race porting, which is a specialized process that can take a while especially in the middle of the busy season. As soon as we learned that the turnaround hadn't been properly explained and you needed to get your sled back together, we got your turbo back to you ASAP. Your wiring harness issue should have been caught sooner too, but it was an unusual problem and our tech didn't directly hear anything about those issues until very late in the process.

Our dealers work hard, and this year they were awesome in getting customers installed and set up. Many of our dealers do carry extra components for troubleshooting purposes, but this is at the discretion of the shop. If this is a concern for any of our customers, we hope you'll give us call and fill us in on your situation.

Anyway, thank you for sharing your experience. We're sorry for the inconvenience - you've been hugely patient and we appreciate the feedback, which we'll be sure to take with us into next season.

Happy Riding
Jerry

PS Let your wife know I've got the extra stickers that she asked for in the mail

Update: Weekend #1 with my aerocharger kit..
Went out with kit first time this year.. Standard aero kit w/snow to air intercooler, and stock doo cluthching w/23.6gm pin weight. vanes set a 3 turns. Set at 7lbs, Sled ran ok couldnt reach 8000 rpm on clicker 4 in two feet of fresh, fuel box was rich on low boost and on cruise.. Real 50mph track speed. pulled good.

Weekend #2 with my aerocharger kit..
Went to Mcbride area last weekend, found three feet of heavy fresh. Did a few things since first ride. Did the complete aero clutching, ramps, spring, weights, helix and gearing. Got most of the turbo dialed in. Vanes at 2 3/4 turns fuel box set as per brads recomendations with a few adjustments on min max boost fuel. Sled felt pretty stock except when on boost which was great. Sled pulls super hard now. Real 55mph track speeds on long hard pulls. Pretty happy with totally destroying every guy in my crew at half throttle.. Now to deal with the major clutch temps and shredded belts.. Any insights?

Would maybe clutching for a 288 belt work better?

Sounds encouraging, Brads got some ideas for your vane adjustment. We're at a race this week, but if you get a chance call the office at 913-829-3400 for Brads cell number.

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Sure sounds good. I'm happy just fine tuning now. On the last sled I saw 50 mph track speeds at 5lbs so 55mph is good with mimimal lag. More worried about clutching and belts.

What wire was incorrect on your setup?

I am having the same challenge.

Rebuilt turbo, nothing wrong but 500 bucks , got new controller more money , and solenoid, replaced everything but the hoses, still same issue.

Frustrating sounds exactly the sane. I had to reverse injector wiring to get it to run....

Pretty good, just hearing you say your having the same issues makes me cringe.. On the aero controller harness the pto side injector clip was wired backwards. If i remember tonight i will take a pic to show which way they are supposed to be hooked up or i will at least let you know. Good luck at least you havent wasted as much as me on it.

PM'd. Let's solve this problem, but we'll need a little more information. Please get with us as soon as you can.

argoman said:

What wire was incorrect on your setup?

I am having the same challenge.

Rebuilt turbo, nothing wrong but 500 bucks , got new controller more money , and solenoid, replaced everything but the hoses, still same issue.

Frustrating sounds exactly the sane. I had to reverse injector wiring to get it to run....

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Would your sled run okay up until secondary fuel was required?
I ripped everything off and put back to stock, pulled harder even with low comp heads and slp valves.

I worked with Chris at Dobeck on new controller. The one he sent was different than the kit. There was no solenoid wiring. This version dent use the solenoid. Got a call from Brad so will follow up but starting to lose hope. This is my tenth turbo sled, not a newbie, shouldn't be this difficult. I paid half of a new kit rushing parts around to try to salvage a trip, but still tinkering..... Hopefully will get resolved soon.

yes sled started and ran perfect. squeeze the trigger rpms come up till the clutch engages starts to lift alls well then time for boost and as soon as the fuel box comes into fuel sled falls on its ass and just wont rev above 5500 rpm if you try to bring it in slowly maybe get 6000rpm but no boost fuel. Sounds like you got the updated controller from dobec, if the vacume line is deleted from the new one you will need the map sensor for it. lol i wasnt a newbie either when this all went down.. Now im pretty much a aero guru. I paid for my education this winter.

I spent quite a bit of time with Brad and Chris today. They were online for a couple hours. They are sure trying to help out. I appreciate that. I think we are down to an air issue withe the turbo. I think the electronics are working good. Pulled a Garret from my buddies sled tonight and bolted on the 66 in it's place, did same thing...... Fell on it's face... 66 must not spoiling up. I felt this was the issue from the start because it didn't spin as free as i would like. Will see what happens next.... I had a sled recently that puked the stuffing from the can and it plugged the exhaust. This is acting the same. Not sure what could cause a lazy or dragging turbo.

didn't you rebuild the turbo? sounds weird to me..