G4 850 motor greanded less than 200miles all stock

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Went to Kalispel for a winter holiday with family, first day there out of ten days kids wanted to ride around and have some fun, after a good warm up on all three sleds, they were off and less than twenty minutes later one was walking back..850 dead

called dealer in kalispeil and talked with service manager asking if they would look at it that today (29th dec, 10am) he had no time for me was his exact words, but might look at it the following week

i wanted him to do a quick compression test to verify motor was sound or we could have a parts comming, since we were there for ten days.. His answer was no way.. It got heated real quick, his name was Eric..

First thing next day we drove to there shop, and asked again, also asked for a replacement sled, both answers no and once they found out sled was from cdn dealer, there answer was no way, also mentioned it was not warranty down here..I asked to have there brp rep call me and answer was no!!

caled my cdn dealer and told them situation, had them call the Kalispel dealer and put pressure on, they did with out any change..

kalispel dealer had had a new 850 sitting on the floor as well and would not entertain the idea of giving it to us for the down time.. Once again it got heated..

Called cdn dealer and told them the over all situation, rentals were very hard to find this busy time of year, and we had family come to visit us down there with full content of riding, I told the cdn dealer, if we can find a rental, someone is paying this dam bill and it ain't me!!

called brp care yesterday and gave them the low down, had a quick call back and apology with comments that were much different than Jesico gave..

all dealers, cdn, USA are to fix sleds it they fall under warranty, and trouble shoot should of happened first day, to have parts comming ASAP, a dealer borrowed sled is given at dealer discretion, but in certain circumstances like this one, brp will make a good will with dealer for compensation to keep all party's happy.. And feels this would of, should of happened here..

Sounds like there here has been multiple complaints from this dealer, and it will be under review.. My answer was a service manager replacement..

droped sled off at Cdn dealer yesterday with numerous apologys, and promt service..

By the afternoon compression test done and pto piston was dead, said new motor on transit

"Will know better once it is torn down and we can look at the cylinder closely.


It does not look like it went lean and melted, almost looks like either a ring caught a port, piston failed or the cylinder coating failed at this point but it is pretty premature to say at this point."

so all said, thank god turbo was not installed yet.. because all this would of been blamed on silber.. And non warranty.. Been down that road before many times..


not sure this motor was as good as brp pretended for us to beleve it to be.. Sounds like it's been seen multiple times this year.. Be aware!!
 

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Ya looks like the ring must of spun, make sure when they pull the piston that you look to see if the pin is missing. Could you hear pieces of ring tinkle through the exhaust? Rode out 50KM on one jug on a 04 that spun the ring. Every once in a while you could hear a piece go through the exhaust.
 

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There is a torrington bearing and cage sitting on top of that piston, i would say the wrist pin let go for some reason.
Maybe i'm seeing things but sure looks like it.
 
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There is a torrington bearing and cage sitting on top of that piston, i would say the wrist pin let go for some reason.
Maybe i'm seeing things but sure looks like it.

Thats what happened to mine last season
 

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I have a buddy with a 17 g4 that is on original belt still at 2500km. Grenaded his motor over the holidays. Sounds like something bottom end. Apparently warranty is dec 1 to dec 1. So no warranty for him. Any one want to buy a sled with no motor?
 

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I have a buddy with a 17 g4 that is on original belt still at 2500km. Grenaded his motor over the holidays. Sounds like something bottom end. Apparently warranty is dec 1 to dec 1. So no warranty for him. Any one want to buy a sled with no motor?
No extended warranty on it? That's strange.
 

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uh oh, there is bearing embedded in the piston
 

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No its still sitting in the box, wanted to get break in over before installing!!, not sure anymore if this motor is reliable enough to to boost.. Since it can even get threw Break-in being stock..



Few other things I forgot to mention, next day after dealer would not look at sled I thought I would do a compression test my self to see if problem was the engine.. What a job to do a compression test on this g4, nothing like any other motors in the past.. The big ass airbox makes the job a lot harder, we ended up removing hood and removed rod threw airbox, had to pry airbox to get at plugs, only to find once removed that they start using a smaller diameter plug on these motors and the old reliable compression tester was not compatible any more, needed to buy a fancy new pro series, but never got time anymore to do it over the trip..


Fredw you never had hairdryer hooked up? Lol
 

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You got heated when the dealer you had already got in a heated argument with told you no free loaner sled? I've never heard of a no questions asked loaner program from BRP or any dealer. why were you expecting this special treatment?
 

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You got heated when the dealer you had already got in a heated argument with told you no free loaner sled? I've never heard of a no questions asked loaner program from BRP or any dealer. why were you expecting this special treatment?
He owns 3- 850's maybe he does have a special deal.

But if the BRP dealer network won't take care of Fred good luck to the rest of us......
 

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No special deal for buying 3 sleds. Or 4. You need to own 5 to get the free loaner deal.
 

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No its still sitting in the box, wanted to get break in over before installing!!, not sure anymore if this motor is reliable enough to to boost.. Since it can even get threw Break-in being stock..



Few other things I forgot to mention, next day after dealer would not look at sled I thought I would do a compression test my self to see if problem was the engine.. What a job to do a compression test on this g4, nothing like any other motors in the past.. The big ass airbox makes the job a lot harder, we ended up removing hood and removed rod threw airbox, had to pry airbox to get at plugs, only to find once removed that they start using a smaller diameter plug on these motors and the old reliable compression tester was not compatible any more, needed to buy a fancy new pro series, but never got time anymore to do it over the trip..

The phone come with the kit??? Lol
 

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Hey fred. im sorry to hear about your luck buddy. hope you get it resolved. I will say that silber hair dryer u got in that box tho... is freaking awesome, on my 17 anyways. just an fyi i do hear the axys is favorable to boost.
 

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Some of the 850 engines on the assembly line are not getting bottom end rod bolts torqued down properly. As a result they come loose and you have problems. Your not the first.
 
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