2018 Ski-Doo Linq System Removable Snow Flap Instal

jhurkot said:

This guy is a joke calling himself a backcountry expert. If you said removable snowflap expert you'd have some credibility.


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Daag44 said:

I'm not seeing any credibility from your post. By the way, you were running the 850 Demo way too high in RPM.

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jhurkot said:

I'm glad you could see the gauge because I sure couldn't.


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Daag44 said:

I can hear the RPM from the East Coast.

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Daag44 said:

That is what I don't understand. Why don't you setup your sled(s) so they stop blowing belts or wearing them up so fast? You can't tell me it is difficult.

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Daag44 said:

That is what I don't understand. Why don't you setup your sled(s) so they stop blowing belts or wearing them up so fast? You can't tell me it is difficult.

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Daag44 said:

That is what I don't understand. Why don't you setup your sled(s) so they stop blowing belts or wearing them up so fast? You can't tell me it is difficult.

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jhurkot said:

The 850 is a mountain sled developed and tested less than 15 miles from my house. What kind of set up do I need to do?


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lilduke said:

If you only had a clue who you are talking too here...

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Daag44 said:

Why does it matter who it is? If you are so interested in who is who and what they are doing, there is Facebook for that craziness.

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lilduke said:

Yeah fair enough guess it doesnt. Point is the guy (jhurkot) knows a thing or two about setting up a mountain sled and I'll leave it at that.

Anywho, Im just here to learn so keep on keeping on.

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Daag44 said:

How BRP comes out with these sleds doesn't concern me, and never has. So I am the wrong person to rant about Box Stock setups. I have always had to setup my sleds for the application. When they are close for what I need, even better, but I never count on it, never.

For extreme riding like you doo, the very first thing to do is lower the RPM to where it doesn't go higher than 8000 rpm MAX! That means you need to load them up. At least this is what I do it out East. There are professional tuners out West that say the 850 needs to run between 7700-8000 rpm max, and usually between 7800-7900 rpm, so it seems to be the same from East to West.

The second thing you need to do is look into the alignment and gearing. This is a big subject, but there are ways to make it simple. Factory settings are usually very close or not far off. So the easy way is to make small adjustments in the X. The Belt Print will show you were to go next.

Need the following for a better setup easier on belts.

1. Elevation?
2. Track Speed during climbs?
3. Track Speed cruising to reach those areas?
4. Max Track speed to reach those areas?
5. Track Lug Height?


By the way those are fantastic videos of your climbs.

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T-team said:

Why is everyone on here trying to chase away a sport ambassador.. He does a LOT for the sport.... did the guy say ANYTHING about how the 850 runs or mention anything about ANY of what you guys are bashing him for? Hes great at what he does... He takes a new product and gets out to test it and instead of looking at things in a book... hes shares them on here. There are alot of people that LIKE that kind of stuff so dont wreck it for them. I like getting to see all of the new stuff in action. Theres plenty of other threads for many different topics... Keep chasing good people out of here and its going to end up being 6 guys sitting here arguing about brands. Keep em comin Dave.

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jhurkot said:

Daag you are correct in that video I am over reving a little bit. The story behind that was my buddy hurt his knee and we were going back to the truck and wanted me to try his sled out. Sled was 100% box stock besides a loud can. Definitely over reving. Still climbed pretty good in waist deep snow but some performance definitely left on the table. I have a set up that seems to work pretty well now that involves aftermarket clutch weights. I personally like to see 8000rpm on the calculator screen gauge Here is a video with stock weights with washers added (not the fix but the ZRP adjustable weights took forever in the mail). This was a different sled, stock can. Sled now has the adjustable weights in it and running quite a bit better. Both sleds are 850 165" 3" at an elevation of roughly 5000-6000ft.

https://youtu.be/1eO-xDxygZw

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Daag44 said:

The washer brought it down to about 7950-8100. It will need a lot more weight to bring it down to 7800-7900. What ramp are you running? And elevation? Very fist thing to doo is swap with the 417127039 Black sec spring to lower the slip in the secondary.

Another thing that I recommend is doing shorter runs on the same climb to measure the belt temps and look at the belt print, then go back down the hill to your tools and add more pin weight.

I would go on because clutching is my favorite subject of all, but I realize this is a Snow Flap install thread. I doo find it a shame that I haven't found a good clutching thread on this forum.

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