850 coupled Skid, Baker, K-Mod, others?? What's workin what's not?

Big A · Jan 30, 2017

After a few hundred miles and several attempts to tune the rear skid in my 850 to at least control the wheelie action and keep the skies down a little bit when climbing, I have given up, stock t-motion is junk. No matter how far forward you get or how far you lean over the hood, the second you start pulling anything steep it just wants to come over backwards, pulled limiter in, fiddled with torsion settings, tried softening up front shock, etc, etc. Looking for a simple skid upgrade with coupled rear scissor that maintains the T-motion concept. I've used Kmod in the past but shipping takes a while and it's a costly product. Hear lots from guys about the Baker set up but seems near impossible to get any info on it, no website or dealer network. Kiss coupler is an option but looks weak and quite gimmicky. Maybe somebody is using a different product that's worth trying.
Thoughts??

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Bnorth · Jan 30, 2017

Personally I would try either the baker rear arm or a Skinz ARC. I love the ARC on my XM

kanedog · Jan 30, 2017

Uh oh. Brace yourself for attack of the dootards. The last guy that offered his opinion of the crappy handling 850 got insulted at least 10 different times.

Rotax_Kid · Jan 30, 2017

What about a simple solution like either moving your rear arm back slightly or a ZRP Zmotion rear arm?

fredw · Jan 30, 2017

Felt the same as you, when I drove the 850, stock skid a joke..

bakers is is better but still not what I see as perfect, drove one a few weeks back and dam near flipped it' we were out with a 850 turbo last week on a kmod, it seamed better. Again..

have there cells if you want to talk first hand

maierch · Jan 30, 2017

Big A said:
After a few hundred miles and several attempts to tune the rear skid in my 850 to at least control the wheelie action and keep the skies down a little bit when climbing, I have given up, stock t-motion is junk. No matter how far forward you get or how far you lean over the hood, the second you start pulling anything steep it just wants to come over backwards, pulled limiter in, fiddled with torsion settings, tried softening up front shock, etc, etc. Looking for a simple skid upgrade with coupled rear scissor that maintains the T-motion concept. I've used Kmod in the past but shipping takes a while and it's a costly product. Hear lots from guys about the Baker set up but seems near impossible to get any info on it, no website or dealer network. Kiss coupler is an option but looks weak and quite gimmicky. Maybe somebody is using a different product that's worth trying.
Thoughts??

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I'm quite happy with the Racer's Edge rear skid on my 850, in my opinion it rides considerably better than stock and does a great job of keeping the skis down but not to the point that they're glued to the snow, you can get the front end to come up if you want it to. Give Daryl a call- his shop number is 403-254-8686. I can't quote his exact prices but it should be considerably cheaper than $3500 CAD for a KMOD.

Big A · Jan 30, 2017

Thanks to everyone for all the info, the Zmotion looks like a great product but then I called Daryl and wow, he sounds like a great guy who loves what he does, gonna take it down and let him work his magic on it, I'll update with my thoughts on it after I get out again.

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vodoo103 · Jan 30, 2017

Have you tried the heavier springs?

Bnorth · Jan 30, 2017

vodoo103 said:
Have you tried the heavier springs?

heavier springs and a better rear shock still don't cut it in the doo skid IMO. Ride a coupled skid and you'll see.

Lund · Jan 30, 2017

I personally would try heavier springs before swapping out the skid, with a better rear shock. I would combine it with a Kiss coupler or Fox. We are using both on turbo Yamaha's with good results.
springs are cheap and a coupler will run you about $1k and can be used on other sleds.
But there are great skids out there for the $$$$.

Dragonalain · Jan 30, 2017

I love my kmod. The part of the day I like it the most is the trail down after riding all day. I watch my buddies on stock suspension just get beat up, standing to absorb the bumps. I always sit down and can usually pass them. Takes the buck right out of the sled best money ever spent.

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Clode · Jan 30, 2017

I also love my k-mod with raptors, the ride is amazing and and easy to set-up, and you can adjust the amount of coupling

cnelson6 · Jan 30, 2017

I watched the racers edge work this weekend and have had a one on another sled and hands down was the best skid I have owned, and it worked well on the 850 I was with. I haven't rode or rode with a k mod so I don't have a opinion. You won't be disappointed in your racers edge.

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birdie · Jan 31, 2017

A few photos of the racers edge and k mod would be most helpful if you guys can provide that

Birdie

fredw · Jan 31, 2017

I run a few of bakers skids on my 174s, I prefer skis to never get higher than 6 inches anywhere on a climb, or in the trees..for that I had to upgrade rear spring to the heavier one.. For that reason I don't have the best ride down the rougher trail, but like it once in the deep for my liking.. I'm 220lbs

what I seen last week on the other turbo using the kmod, they had a quick adjust that gave them quick changes for rear spring pressure.. Pretty cool, but never got to see how well it performed in the steep and deep

kanedog · Jan 31, 2017

Kmod doesn't keep the front end down as good as racers edge. I have had 1 Kmod and 2 racers edge so I am speaking from experience.

snopro · Jan 31, 2017

fredw said:
I run a few of bakers skids on my 174s, I prefer skis to never get higher than 6 inches anywhere on a climb, or in the trees..for that I had to upgrade rear spring to the heavier one.. For that reason I don't have the best ride down the rougher trail, but like it once in the deep for my liking.. I'm 220lbs

what I seen last week on the other turbo using the kmod, they had a quick adjust that gave them quick changes for rear spring pressure.. Pretty cool, but never got to see how well it performed in the steep and deep

Was sitting on that sled an hour and a bit ago. Darrell builds quality product. Have always loved my rear skids from him and service is the best.

maierch · Jan 31, 2017

fredw said:
I run a few of bakers skids on my 174s, I prefer skis to never get higher than 6 inches anywhere on a climb, or in the trees..for that I had to upgrade rear spring to the heavier one.. For that reason I don't have the best ride down the rougher trail, but like it once in the deep for my liking.. I'm 220lbs

what I seen last week on the other turbo using the kmod, they had a quick adjust that gave them quick changes for rear spring pressure.. Pretty cool, but never got to see how well it performed in the steep and deep

You're aware Baker sells Mag Blocks that control the coupling to achieve that very effect right Fred?

snopro · Jan 31, 2017

Hearing good things on the Zbros kit as well. What are guys thoughts on it? Does it give a better feel for the stock T Motion than a fully coupled skid like Racers Edge does?

fredw · Jan 31, 2017

Might have a few sets all over Boulder, magnets a bit weak on the sets I got..

maierch said:
You're aware Baker sells Mag Blocks that control the coupling to achieve that very effect right Fred?

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