If you are having belt issues on your 2017 Ski-Doo Rev G4 Read This!!

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Specialty makes a conversion kit for team set up

Oh I know they have it along with other shops, just didn't know it was only a $30 fix.
lol

Bout $750 of good money after bad for parts.
 
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How about a sled redesign.

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I heard they got a new foam supplier for the clutch covers this year so its not as critical to remove it. Foam calibration is correct in the 2018s
Lol.
There is few things about ownership of manchinery that piss me off less than how BRP handled that whole fisaco.

The tact of that engineering team outta this world.
 

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Humm Interesting comment, I dont see no where near the problem threads on other manufacturers sites/threads.

The photo I poster earlier, I was informed by a pro rider today that his belt shredded, he showed me the belt exact same failure and than I showed him the pic. Hes not on social media so is the problem bigger than it really is?
 
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The internet tends to make problems bigger than they really are.
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This was meant as sarcasm. It's not like the issues are a one off type deal. Each model of sleds are built the exact same. Thats how manufacturing works. Therefore, if one sled has a design issue, ie-belt eating issue, you can pretty much bank the whole model line up having the same issue. Anybody wanna prove me wrong with the belt issues? I have my heat gun ready for the challenge.
 

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Humm Interesting comment, I dont see no where near the problem threads on other manufacturers sites/threads.

The photo I poster earlier, I was informed by a pro rider today that his belt shredded, he showed me the belt exact same failure and than I showed him the pic. Hes not on social media so is the problem bigger than it really is?
Doo talk?
 

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This was meant as sarcasm. It's not like the issues are a one off type deal. Each model of sleds are built the exact same. Thats how manufacturing works. Therefore, if one sled has a design issue, ie-belt eating issue, you can pretty much bank the whole model line up having the same issue. Anybody wanna prove me wrong with the belt issues? I have my heat gun ready for the challenge.

That being said, all things being the same as you put it. How do you explane the guys having no belt issues with the 17's? It is possible having multiple QC issues on the assembly line? Sure it can. My personnal belief on the matter...Proper PDI and ongoing maintenance is extremely important. Having the owner's 15 year old kid putting sleds together on Saturdays as some dealers are doing isn't the answer. It's sad to see that it is still being done today considering the price of these machines. I was at a doo dealer outside the city today looking at his non current sleds on the floor. I was able to wipe enough preserve residue in the clutch area that I could see it on my hand. Sales guy said it's ready to go. Just make the deal and load it up. With the exception of my last sled every other motocross bike, street/ sport bikes and sleds I've bought, I've taken home in a box. About 17 machines total over the years. Hate to say it, but I don't want their shop monkeys touching my stuff. I found multiple issues that would have developed into major problems and would have caused sadness and poopypants on the hill had it not been caught on set up. From loose air box clamps on a CRF 450R to a cut injection line drawing air in at the crimped end of the oil pump on a 670 Mach 1. Back in the day I would look over friends sleds that were new from the dealer. Found zero oil in chaincase in a Arctic Cat 700 wildcat. prob due to having to removing twin pipes and muffler to access level plug. Just lazyness. Found excess flashing around a P-85 clutch weight keeping it from rotating on a Indy 650. All I'm saying is not all guys are created equal whether they are a tech or owner. For your own peace of mind, learn about your machines and understand why it's designed that way. Know all the components AND what they do. Check your offset, belt deflection and any other adjustments that have to be done. Keep your stuff clean. I wash my sleds down after every three days of riding, wash the belt and let air dry. Easy to inspect while it's apart. Check the jackshaft/ chaincase/ suspension and track. Make sure it's right to begin with from the start and trend it from there. If an issue will show up you'll find it. Better in a warm garage at home than on the hill. It's frustrating to see how many guys (however small) are having problems and don't have a clue.
 

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That being said, all things being the same as you put it. How do you explane the guys having no belt issues with the 17's? It is possible having multiple QC issues on the assembly line? Sure it can. My personnal belief on the matter...Proper PDI and ongoing maintenance is extremely important. Having the owner's 15 year old kid putting sleds together on Saturdays as some dealers are doing isn't the answer. It's sad to see that it is still being done today considering the price of these machines. I was at a doo dealer outside the city today looking at his non current sleds on the floor. I was able to wipe enough preserve residue in the clutch area that I could see it on my hand. Sales guy said it's ready to go. Just make the deal and load it up. With the exception of my last sled every other motocross bike, street/ sport bikes and sleds I've bought, I've taken home in a box. About 17 machines total over the years. Hate to say it, but I don't want their shop monkeys touching my stuff. I found multiple issues that would have developed into major problems and would have caused sadness and poopypants on the hill had it not been caught on set up. From loose air box clamps on a CRF 450R to a cut injection line drawing air in at the crimped end of the oil pump on a 670 Mach 1. Back in the day I would look over friends sleds that were new from the dealer. Found zero oil in chaincase in a Arctic Cat 700 wildcat. prob due to having to removing twin pipes and muffler to access level plug. Just lazyness. Found excess flashing around a P-85 clutch weight keeping it from rotating on a Indy 650. All I'm saying is not all guys are created equal whether they are a tech or owner. For your own peace of mind, learn about your machines and understand why it's designed that way. Know all the components AND what they do. Check your offset, belt deflection and any other adjustments that have to be done. Keep your stuff clean. I wash my sleds down after every three days of riding, wash the belt and let air dry. Easy to inspect while it's apart. Check the jackshaft/ chaincase/ suspension and track. Make sure it's right to begin with from the start and trend it from there. If an issue will show up you'll find it. Better in a warm garage at home than on the hill. It's frustrating to see how many guys (however small) are having problems and don't have a clue.
Well said! There is NO excuse for a dealer to let a machine out the door not ready to go. I have seen it at many stores including my own back in the day. You as a store owner are only as good as your employees that represent you no matter how hard you try there will be mistakes. I think what people need to understand is you can't trust anyone else when you make that first trip to the mountains. Be informed on the sleds workings and do your own inspection for loose bolts, oil on clutches and fluids topped up. I personally trust no one but myself and I try and be as prepared as I can when I head to the backcountry. These new sleds no matter the brand will take you deep back into no mans land in a matter of minutes. You have to cover your bases as the consequences from a 15 year old PDI tech could be disastrous.
 

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What he's doing is a complete waste of time. If your G4 fails a belt prematurely by XM standards, all the venting in the world isn't going to stop that. He was just throwing darts at a wall. Looking in the wrong direction. My neighbor down the street has a 17MY 165" completely stock. Not even a can on it. Has it with all the factory insulation still in it. He ended he's season last year with just under 2000km on it. Still original belt with no updates done at the time. Only had the free stuff done this fall. He showed me his original belt next to the new updated belt as a spare. I adjusted his belt deflection once at 300 km last season.This fall we measured both with calipers and found .030" worth of wear on his used one. After being washed and a close inspection we had no reason not to use it on the sled. So back on it went. Riddle me that?
 

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I wonder in the wobble in the primary makes a dogleg in the belt and creates a bunch of extra heat?. someone should rig up a gro pro in their 850 and videos what the clutches look like for alignment under heavy load.
 

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Lol
ya what ever
u must b a brp engineer or something ?
and ur friend just rides trails with his belt .03

im pretty sure Brett Rasmussen has the know and
more time on any sled here
so don’t cut down the legends of brap
they know what works
and u should take his info with a big thanks for his youtube vid
think about it
if not ... ur loss
throwing darts on the trail
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Lol
ya what ever
u must b a brp engineer or something ?
and ur friend just rides trails with his belt .03

im pretty sure Brett Rasmussen has the know and
more time on any sled here
so don’t cut down the legends of brap
they know what works
and u should take his info with a big thanks for his youtube vid
think about it
if not ... ur loss
throwing darts on the trail
lol

By your comments, (so don't cut down the legends of brap) you must be a millennial. You forgot (dude) at the end. I've heard of Brett Rasmussen. Thanks tips. He's been in the industrie a long time and well respected. His vid however at the time, is a Kneejerk reaction to the issue of blowing belts on some 17MY G4's. Getting more air across these components was the easiest thing to do given the time he had. it's was his own way of damage control. I will dare to say this was not a sanctioned method by BRP. I believe other BRP Ambassadors (Norona) we're doing the same. The point I was trying to make and the only thing I was interested in, was in stock form and from a mechanical standpoint why some machines preformed as designed while others didn't. I would have loved to have a problem child G4 in my garage to compare apples to apples. My thoughts on the matter... there we're a number of variables. (assembly line QC, dealer PDI and owner maintenance. I believe some dealers and aftermarket suppliers did a great job at getting to the root cause of these issues on there own. BRP obviously made some changes to the 18MY to address these issues and improve their product. I don't think there will ever be a smoking gun on the matter. These issues will just fade over time and become irrlevant. On an other note, I am looking at a new ride this season and looking forward to new iron. My 15MY T3 is not so current anymore. All four brands have produced some great products as I am on the fence to what direction I'm going. There are going to be some smoking deals to be had this season on non currents and even new snowchecks that became availible. For me, It will boil down to the dealer regardless of brand. It's a hard choice to make in the Edmonton area as I found they have all been good to me over the years. Any suggestions and Why?
 

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By your comments, (so don't cut down the legends of brap) you must be a millennial. You forgot (dude) at the end. I've heard of Brett Rasmussen. Thanks tips. He's been in the industrie a long time and well respected. His vid however at the time, is a Kneejerk reaction to the issue of blowing belts on some 17MY G4's. Getting more air across these components was the easiest thing to do given the time he had. it's was his own way of damage control. I will dare to say this was not a sanctioned method by BRP. I believe other BRP Ambassadors (Norona) we're doing the same. The point I was trying to make and the only thing I was interested in, was in stock form and from a mechanical standpoint why some machines preformed as designed while others didn't. I would have loved to have a problem child G4 in my garage to compare apples to apples. My thoughts on the matter... there we're a number of variables. (assembly line QC, dealer PDI and owner maintenance. I believe some dealers and aftermarket suppliers did a great job at getting to the root cause of these issues on there own. BRP obviously made some changes to the 18MY to address these issues and improve their product. I don't think there will ever be a smoking gun on the matter. These issues will just fade over time and become irrlevant. On an other note, I am looking at a new ride this season and looking forward to new iron. My 15MY T3 is not so current anymore. All four brands have produced some great products as I am on the fence to what direction I'm going. There are going to be some smoking deals to be had this season on non currents and even new snowchecks that became availible. For me, It will boil down to the dealer regardless of brand. It's a hard choice to make in the Edmonton area as I found they have all been good to me over the years. Any suggestions and Why?
To bad they had to pull that thread on the 17s last year due to the doolaid hurt feelings.
Smoking gun was fully exposed.

Lay out 14k and you can have what you wished for sitting on your garage floor with all updates and lots of accessories.
Very minty shape....gently ridden by an old guy.

Only 700km.
Should not be an issue at all by your post.
PM me when you will be over.
Best sled on the snow.


This hot deal open to any doolaider so sorry you're not special.
No meant as an insult just an offer
 
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To bad they had to pull that thread on the 17s last year due to the doolaid hurt feelings.
Smoking gun was fully exposed.

Lay out 14k and you can have what you wished for sitting on your garage floor with all updates and accessories.

Only 700km.
Should not be an issue at all by your post.
PM me when you'LL be over.
Best sled on the snow.

Thanks for the offer but I only buy new. That way it minimizes all the other fingers on the product. I only have myself to blame if something goes sideways. It's the way I roll.
 
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