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    Snowbike use in snow vehicle use areas

    I have been inquiring with the alberta government for a few weeks trying to determine what vehicles are allowed to operate in alberta snow vehicle areas and have finally gotten a good answer. The definition they are using for a snow vehicle is "a motorized vehicle designed chiefly for use on snow or ice" which would basically include any OHV with a track and ski. The belief that if it is not registered as a snowmobile then it is not allowed does not hold true, and our ever more popular snowbikes seem to be allowed to operate on alberta snow vehicle trails and areas. If anyone would like a copy of this statement just PM me your e-mail address and I will forward it to you. Good news!



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    Snowbike use in snow vehicle use areas

    Not to be a Debby downer,
    To me " a motorized vehicle designed chiefly for use on snow or ice" means a vehicle that is built to and not modified to run on snow.
    So your dirt bike which was designed chiefly to run on dirt does not meet the requirements.

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    Re: Snowbike use in snow vehicle use areas

    I agree that the original form of a dirtbike does not meet this description, but if a track and ski is installed then the design is no longer a dirtbike it is a snowbike. If the alberta government had called these areas "snowmobile use" or had created a legal definition of a snow vehicle that had stated this then it would be different. I've received this information directly from the Approvals Manager at Alberta Environment and Parks.

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    Re: Snowbike use in snow vehicle use areas

    How does a quad with tracks fit in ?
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    Re: Snowbike use in snow vehicle use areas

    Quote Originally Posted by doorfx View Post
    How does a quad with tracks fit in ?

    They are perfect for Mclean Creek.
    No ski

    Its a slippery slope and this NEW winter toy may be the start to negative changes.

    Seen a couple of rented snowbikes out there a week ago. They don't steer to good on packed trails. Skis don't bite to good. Rider was having a hard time going in a straight line. These snowbikes are for powder or off trail riding mainly. Really not a safe ride on groomed trails.

    Quads with tracks are still quads and still rut up the trails climbing hills and rooting around. Safety issue hitting those ruts.

    If its registered anything other that a snowmobile should go where designed use is allowed. JMHO
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    Re: Snowbike use in snow vehicle use areas

    Anything that has tracks or wheels all around would be considered an all terrain vehicle as it has the ability to drive on surfaces other than ice or snow. If it has a ski it can be surmised that it is designed only for travel on ice or snow as a ski does not work on anything else (well at least). The thought that the bikes shouldn't be allowed on a snowmobile trail because they don't handle well in those conditions is pretty narrow minded, how do you expect to get to the free sledding area's that have the open areas and good snow? also kinda like saying that an older sled shouldn't be allowed on the trails because it doesn't handle as well and can't go as fast as the new ones? and in addition to that, with the new kits coming out they are saying that they are surpassing the trail ability of sleds. Tapped out in 6th gear on the trail with the new bike kits seems to be possible!

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    Re: Snowbike use in snow vehicle use areas

    You are still modifying a machine that is not designed for the purpose you are using it for.
    Once the manufacturers come out with a production snow bike that is designed for snow use, then have at it.
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    Re: Snowbike use in snow vehicle use areas

    Excerpt from Alberta Parks website for Cataract Creek under "Know the Law". http://www.albertaparks.ca/media/452...ile_trails.pdf

    ◗ Only snowmobiles are permitted in the Cataract Creek Snow Vehicle Forest Land Use Zone.

    ^^Looks pretty straight forward at this point in time.

    According to your reasoning then I should be able to build and run this.
    Edit:Of course I'd have to put a Hemi in it for the hills.

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    Re: Snowbike use in snow vehicle use areas

    Lol, Kaz you are going to have to build wider bridges

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    Re: Snowbike use in snow vehicle use areas

    Retiredpop, if you inspect your map closely you will find that it was printed in 2007. If you refer to the newest Kaninaskis country PLUZ brochure you will find that it refers to these area's as being "snow vehicle" accessible which would fall under the same definition as i have provided before. And in fact, this document also has the definition i have stated and had confirmed by Alberta Parks and Environment on the map itself.

    http://aep.alberta.ca/recreation-pub...ap-Jul2015.pdf

    i will note, the esrd website and some of its documentation is misleading and does say "snowmobile" in a variety of places as well as "snow vehicle" in others for the same area's. While this is misleading if it were to come down to law talk, the favor is on the side of the party who did not draft the regulation/contract/law. So ambiguity would err on the side of the person who must interpret this documentation.

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