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    Re: MacLean Mountain Riding

    Quote Originally Posted by JZ1 View Post
    Is there a map of this area? Seems to be in between Cataract and Crowsnest area
    I do not believe there is a map, as there are no designated trails - yet, other than in the Willow Creek P.L.U.Z.
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    Re: MacLean Mountain Riding

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaz Dog View Post
    BTW - Change is coming with regards to the Alberta backcountry, so my government contacts tell me. The public will not be consulted, they will just appear - at this point.
    Change as in shutting down areas?

    what does the bolded mean?

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    Re: MacLean Mountain Riding

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaz Dog View Post
    BTW - Change is coming with regards to the Alberta backcountry, so my government contacts tell me. The public will not be consulted, they will just appear - at this point.
    So how do we fight an enemy when we can't see what they're doing?
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    Re: MacLean Mountain Riding

    Quote Originally Posted by Highfly View Post
    So how do we fight an enemy when we can't see what they're doing?
    Its a unwinnable fight against our lovely NDP gov. Just think only 3 1/2 more years of that no good $%^&

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    Re: MacLean Mountain Riding

    Quote Originally Posted by JZ1 View Post
    Change as in shutting down areas?

    what does the bolded mean?
    Not necessarily shutting down areas, but may be shutting down trails that have been traveled by quad for quite some time. I can guarantee you that trails will be moved - if not shutdown - through "wet zones"; marshes, ponds, stagnant water - from what I am hearing.

    The consulting being done currently is through organized and recognized groups; individual members of the public are not involved. So if you are not involved in a club, or starting one and getting recognition, you will not hear anything. I, personally, spend quite a bit of time keeping myself informed for the Calgary Snowmobile Club and its' members, to represent their interests.

    I would suggest to everyone to stop complaining about membership dues for clubs and join one, or start your own. I do not get paid for what I do, but do it so that we do not loose access to the backcountry for snowmobiles at Cataract Creek and "the Green Zone" of public lands.
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    Re: MacLean Mountain Riding

    Quote Originally Posted by Highfly View Post
    So how do we fight an enemy when we can't see what they're doing?
    Easy - get involved on a personal level, educate yourself as to what is happening as I have, join an organized group that will represent your views, or start your own club.
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    Re: MacLean Mountain Riding

    Quote Originally Posted by JZ1 View Post
    Its a unwinnable fight against our lovely NDP gov. Just think only 3 1/2 more years of that no good $%^&
    I would beg to differ with you here. Anyone that knows me knows I have no love for the NDP, as I come from Saskatchewan before my friend Brad Wall became Premier.

    There are some "things" that the provincial PC's chose not to address when in power, trails and trails management outside of Provincial Parks was one of them. From what I have heard this will now be addressed, as the legal requirements of the South Saskatchewan Regional Plan require it. It sounds like new regulation will be out the first quarter of 2017, latest.
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    Re: MacLean Mountain Riding

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaz Dog View Post
    Easy - get involved on a personal level, educate yourself as to what is happening as I have, join an organized group that will represent your views, or start your own club.
    Does S&M not count as an organized group? Maybe we need to change how we go about this. Members51,827 strong...
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    Re: MacLean Mountain Riding

    Quote Originally Posted by Highfly View Post
    Does S&M not count as an organized group? Maybe we need to change how we go about this. Members51,827 strong...
    Sadly, no it does not. S & M is a website.
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    Re: MacLean Mountain Riding

    So as OP, I'll answer a few things...

    No, I likely will not try to change the regs in Alberta but rather, I'll just continue riding in BC. Or if I get laid off I'll just move there. The reason is not that I don't care but rather, the areas here are apparently not worth fighting for. Not enough snow and still hours away anyway. If I could drive due west of south Calgary and ride in Kananaskis, I would consider it. But the chances of that happening are zero. I'll continue to spend my spare time driving to, and spending my money in, BC.

    No snowbikes in Cataract? Really? Who in the hell in their right mind would enforce that? So what the hell is a snowhawk then? (Anger not directed at the poster but by the sheer stupidity of the Reg FYI.) I have ridden out there. Cop came by, asked us about our bikes and how we liked them and then told us to have a great ride. So clearly that rule is not being enforced. But regardless that trail over Fording is just a pain anyway. I'd rather go a little farther to Crowsnest.

    And I am very interested in this area at chain lakes. Even if it's just access to the BC side from AB then I would be ok with that. Will look into it some more.

    Lastly, thanks to those who gave their opinion of Maclean riding. Kind of what I figured. I was hoping there would be a few good meadows but apparently not. As for riding off trail, there is no way a snowbike will ever do the kind of damage a quad or dirt bike does out there. Ask me how I know - I have one of each of those also. Sometimes I wonder if the people who make up these regs have actually ever even seen these machines, let alone ridden one themselves! Brutal.
    Last edited by thejean; January 25th, 2016 at 08:08 PM.

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