2016 pro. Power loss after overheat.

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Sooo I have a 2016 pro 163 with silber turbo 7# boost half av gas half 91. 1500km and was running mint... then I blew a coolant hose and got her real toasty. 115C when I looked at gauge before shutting down on its own. Seen coolant had drained then towed to truck. Patched hose, refilled and tried riding a few days later. Now I’m experiencing terrible lag, and rpms dropped from 8500 WOT to around 8100rpm. The sled ran very slobbery before, plugs would be wet and exhaust smoked a lot. Now the plugs and exhaust look real lean, but sled isn’t detonating or anything. Idle rpm is same as before 1700rpm. Compression same as before 110 per side. Starts idles and reverse fine. Not burning or leaking coolant. Changed exhaust springs and donuts. Pressure tested exhaust, intake and crank case (no leaks). Checked turbo impeller, turbine and shaft (ok), disassembled and inspected blow off valve and aneroid valve (ok). Changed plugs as well.
Was running 74g weights and switched to 68s and only gained about 150rpm and didn’t help nasty slow lag. Seemed to sometimes stall out for a moment around 6500rpm when under good load. This made be think exhaust valves, cleaned and inspected exhaust valves but made no difference.
Rode the sled 3 more days like this with out any changes to performance or compression.
Anybody have any thoughts on what else I can check that could do this after a over heat? Ill be checking tps and probably replacing the head seals either way, but any other ideas would be greatly appreciated.
 

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I would do a leak down test, i have had similar before. guessing you need to do a top end.
 

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Sooo I have a 2016 pro 163 with silber turbo 7# boost half av gas half 91. 1500km and was running mint... then I blew a coolant hose and got her real toasty. 115C when I looked at gauge before shutting down on its own. Seen coolant had drained then towed to truck. Patched hose, refilled and tried riding a few days later. Now I’m experiencing terrible lag, and rpms dropped from 8500 WOT to around 8100rpm. The sled ran very slobbery before, plugs would be wet and exhaust smoked a lot. Now the plugs and exhaust look real lean, but sled isn’t detonating or anything. Idle rpm is same as before 1700rpm. Compression same as before 110 per side. Starts idles and reverse fine. Not burning or leaking coolant. Changed exhaust springs and donuts. Pressure tested exhaust, intake and crank case (no leaks). Checked turbo impeller, turbine and shaft (ok), disassembled and inspected blow off valve and aneroid valve (ok). Changed plugs as well.
Was running 74g weights and switched to 68s and only gained about 150rpm and didn’t help nasty slow lag. Seemed to sometimes stall out for a moment around 6500rpm when under good load. This made be think exhaust valves, cleaned and inspected exhaust valves but made no difference.
Rode the sled 3 more days like this with out any changes to performance or compression.
Anybody have any thoughts on what else I can check that could do this after a over heat? Ill be checking tps and probably replacing the head seals either way, but any other ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Sounds like your rings are done, an severe overheat can cause the piston rings to loose their tension. This in some cases will not show on a compression test and it will run but will have no power.
One way to check is to remove the Y pipe. Using a small screw driver push on the piston ring only. You should be able to push the ring into the piston groove and when you release the ring should spring back. If you cannot push the ring, that is your problem.
It would need new rings.
 

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Did leak down test of crankcase and cooling system... held pressure fine on both tests. Pulled top end cover off and both top cylinder orings had a bad spot where it looked like they rolled and let cumbustion gassed into the coolant. Changed the seals and put back together. Everything else in the cylinders looked mint. Rings also seemed to be seating properly and sprung back nicely after I pushed them into the piston groove. Gonna try her out next weekend and see if it made a difference.... if not I’ll pull it apart and change rings regardless.
 
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