Is Cyle legal or illegal?

Teth-Air · May 26, 2020

Cyle said:
I'm really questioning how many people here understand how electric brakes work with comments like this. The pulling vehicle has ZERO, ZIP, NADA to do with if the brakes come on in the event the trailer disconnects from the towing vehicle. As long as you have a proper breakaway on the trailer and it's hooked up to pull the pin before the safety chains grab the brakes will lock up in the event of a disconnection.

Okay so yo are saying the trailer does have brakes? I apologize if I misunderstood your original post that I thought said your trailer had no brakes so therefore no breakaway stopping potential.

kanedog · May 26, 2020

S.W.A.T. said:
I must apologize to CYLE as I didn't me for the thread to get this far along, was actually supposed to be more in fun so I am sorry Cyle.

Pretty much comes down to this. Is the truck more than capable of stopping without the trailer brakes, assuming it's in good running condition and its brakes are good and its heavy enough, yes without a question. Legally do the brakes need to be hooked up, yes. Would the braking system work more efficiently with them connected, yes.

Im not sorry to Cyle. It is fun to harass No brakes Cyle!

Cyle · May 27, 2020

Teth-Air said:
Okay so yo are saying the trailer does have brakes? I apologize if I misunderstood your original post that I thought said your trailer had no brakes so therefore no breakaway stopping potential.

Yes the trailer is in good working condition and brakes work fine for the 95% of the time I pull it behind my pickup. The only time I don't have brakes is behind my tandem dump.

Cyle · May 27, 2020

S.W.A.T. said:
I must apologize to CYLE as I didn't me for the thread to get this far along, was actually supposed to be more in fun so I am sorry Cyle.

Pretty much comes down to this. Is the truck more than capable of stopping without the trailer brakes, assuming it's in good running condition and its brakes are good and its heavy enough, yes without a question. Legally do the brakes need to be hooked up, yes. Would the braking system work more efficiently with them connected, yes.

It's no worries, it doesn't bother me one bit. I agree with you here's a thought to ponder, someone can legally pull a 14,000lb trailer with a 30 year old truck, no engine brake, downshifting etc, and we all know brakes back then were nowhere close to today. Now compare that to the capability of brand new of the same vehicle and how much more stopping power that thing has. Both are legal, both will not stop anywhere close to the same though.

fj40 · May 27, 2020

Cyle said:
Yes the trailer is in good working condition and brakes work fine for the 95% of the time I pull it behind my pickup. The only time I don't have brakes is behind my tandem dump.

So which stops in a shorter distance.
The tandem or the pick up, with the trailer attached to either.
Do you think your tandem would stop in the same distance if it had a brake controller.

Cyle · May 27, 2020

fj40 said:
So which stops in a shorter distance.
The tandem or the pick up, with the trailer attached to either.
Do you think your tandem would stop in the same distance if it had a brake controller.

Tandem but it would be close. Although both are capable of stopping way faster then ever needed as the pickup is a 5500 so with the exhaust brake, downshifting and massive brakes it stops very fast. 99% of the time I only touch the brakes on the 5500 from 30 to 0. Yes it would, because it's capable of stopping it so fast I would never want to try and stop any faster then what it is already capable of. With the trailer and truck empty, I only run the tandem engine brake on 2, 3 just pulls it down too hard because there isn't enough weight. The only exception would be icy roads and where a brake controller is a must. The other thing people forget is trying to dial in a brake controller when the towing vehicle is so much heavier is much more difficult and why people run the brakes lower in situations like that. In a pickup you'll feel the trailer pulling on the truck if the brakes are setup to much, you won't on a 20,000lb+ truck, you'll just burn up the brakes and tires.

kanedog · May 28, 2020

Cyle’s New bumper sticker for his dump truck-“I just can’t catch a brake!”

arff · May 28, 2020

Can you put a sled deck in a dump truck?

RGM · May 28, 2020

arff said:
Can you put a sled deck in a dump truck?

Can you put a 1/2 ton with a sled deck in a dump truck?

Stompin Tom · May 29, 2020

RGM said:
Can you put a 1/2 ton with a sled deck in a dump truck?

yes, if the brakes work.

doorfx · May 29, 2020

He can stop in the same distance loaded or unloaded so put five or six in there.

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