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Been debating on weather or even how to write this over the last few weeks. Im third generation oilfield worker, a large portion of my family being involved with the oilfield in some way. Its sad to say, but I really truly honestly feel that the oilfield in Canada is officially dead. Sure there will be a little here and there, some guys will get a little work and even less will get consistent work, but all in all, to be an oilfield worker as a career is over. Nothing pains me more than to be saying this as I myself have over 20 years in the industry, an industry which I used to love and was proud to be apart of.


The industry has always worked in cycles, most of us know this. It was feast or famine. Best you could do was get the money while the gettin was good and save the best you could to prepare for the next slow down. Some were smart, most were not. Debt would ring up, slow down would hit and more debt would add up until bankruptcy loomed. Most slow downs lasted at most a year but usually turned around and guys would get 3 or 4 years of good times to recover and prepare for the next one. Take this most recent slow down in 2014. Writing was on the wall BUT no one expected it to hit as hard as it did. The world shook as oil prices fell to near 1998 prices. Within a few years though prices started to climb, enough so that work started to return. Not a ton, but enough that the guys left in the patch were finding work.


2018 there was finally some hope, there seemed to be some sort of light at the end of the tunnel but this whole pipe line mess loomed over us. You see Canadian Crude has always had its own value, lately a value significantly lower that everyone else due to our lack of infrastructure to get oil to market. With our current government and their apparently efforts to stop the much needed pipe line, Western Crude prices fell, investments pulled and companies lost faith… Canada is now suffering another oilfield crash, on top of the previous one. Heres the problem. Anyone that has survived thus far is at the end of their rope. Toys are sold, saving have been spent to survive these last 4 years and now that another slow down is here, there is nothing to fall back on. Faith in the patch is gone as the hands and small businesses are in real trouble this time.


We are 8-10 year away from any of this every turning around at the earliest, save some major even happening that sends oil to 200 a barrel. Lets face it, without a means to get our oil to market, no one wants it and who can blame them. Our government has severely let us down and 2019 is going to mean some serious trouble for Canada. I have done every thing I can to stick it out in the only career I know and don’t know how much longer I can go living pay check to pay check meanwhile being away from my family 25 days a month just to get by, and thats when Im busy. If I was young and new to the oilfield I wouldn’t come anywhere near the oilfield as its apparent there is no future. You used to come here to make money, now, when you can actually get work, the money isn’t that great anymore.


I know some of you have very little sympathy for oilfield workers because you have always seen the money they have made but let me explain the repercussions of no oilfield in Alberta, Sask or Northern BC. Before the crash, entry level oilfield workers made over 100K a year. In order to do this they usually spent about 230-250 days a year away from their friends and families in all weather conditions working all sorts of hours. At times these conditions could be some of the most gruelling with sometimes not the nicest people. But it was a job and it paid well. Thats from their perspective. These same people that do this job pay 30% or more in taxes to our government. They pay more in taxes that many people make in an entire year, thats entry level, now take the people that are pulling in 200-250K. All that tax money is gone, no longer paying for schools and hospitals and roads and such. Now consider those lifted trucks and toys they buy with the money they earned with their oilfield money. All that money went to local businesses and local people that didn’t work in the oilfield. Salaries were paid, cloths were bought with that money those people earned from selling that truck or quad or what ever they buy. Also consider the money they spent in the places they worked, supporting locally. Hotels, gas stations and grocery stores, restaurants and bars and so on. Alberta was successful and one of the richest provinces for one reason, OIL MONEY and now it is gone. Go to another have not province and ask them what its like to not have jobs and see what they think. Ask the number of people born across Canada that have come to Alberta for the Alberta Advantage why they came. Our Federal government had one mission regarding Alberta, and that was to bring it to its knees and we have let them do it. The oil field is dead and we let it happen. They panic cause 2500 of Ontarios people lost their jobs because GM shut down a plant yet 150K Albertans have last their jobs and more are coming.


Sorry for the long post, hope you made it this far.
 

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........They panic cause 2500 of Ontarios people lost their jobs because GM shut down a plant yet 150K Albertans have last their jobs and more are coming........

Good read and you are bang on.

The Trudeau's have done it again. Both of them viciously against Alberta/Energy Industry. Until Moe and Knothead rattled the chain, the agenda of the upcoming First Ministers meeting didn't even have the Energy sector on the agenda. I sure hope the eastern part of Canada can see through the jerks attitude and agenda. If they don't we will be stuck for another 4 years.
 

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I started working in the oilfield May of 1997 for Precision Drilling, made the move from Manitoba summer of 2000 and became a permanent Alberta resident. Stayed busy throughout the slow down of 2008-09 and after 10 yrs with Weatherford Drilling Services became one of the many that were laid off March of 2015. Work slowly started to pick up again and managed to stay fairly busy through 2017 and most of 2018 but with the looming lay offs again am starting to feel stressed and a little bit lost as to which direction to go next. Doubt that I will carry on in the oilpatch once the lay offs officially come.
Something very drastic will have to happen before the politicians in Ottawa start listening to the people of Canada
 

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The thing is what is the drastic thing that needs to happen? I know suicides in males in Alberta is up, but know one seems to care. Does Ottawa, and the super rich really care about blue collar workers. I don't know. Our government seems to be focused on helping everyone but the Canadian Citizen and that is not okay. It will be interesting to see what happens.
 

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I agree totally, Everyone has always joked that please lord let there be another oil boom and they have largely been there, this time though it is different, if oil can’t be moved efficiently we are hooped for a long time, Bill 69,emissions changes on energy east, tanker ban, government owning KM, etc., has effectively stopped the future in its tracks. When I read comments on other social platforms many easterners hate alberta will elect Trudeau back in partly because of that and then nothing happens before 2023 or later. Bad situation for Canada, left and enviro crusaders have no idea where the money comes from but the politicians they vote in sure do and the socialist redistribution of wealth is the outcome and is starting to happen.
 
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I was to young to know the real damage of the first Trudeau, but I think the drastic change that might need to happen is Alberta or the west starting to talk about separation. As soon as the east realizes the billions of dollars they will no longer be getting things might start to turn around. I still don't under stand how whats best for a nation can be controlled and decided by such a small area. All these provinces against oil seem to love the benefits oil money brings to them but as soon as the word pipeline is brought up in their neighbourhood its all hands on deck against it.
 

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Pierre Trudeau just after the taxes from oil which only half killed it, Justin Trudeau is out to be a big shot globalist like Macron. He is praised for shutting down canada's oil industry. At least France gets out and revolts against their A-hole.
 

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Someone once posted a joke on here about building a time machine so he could go back and give Pierre some condoms. It is a good idea.

I am a BC'er thru and thru, but I cant believe the bs that has screwed up the patch in the past 4 or 5 years. I was adamantly against Northern Gateway, it was a very flawed plan from the start, but Trans Mountain? I still cant see any legit reason why that was screwed over. Frankly it is the perfect storm of a kindergarten teacher being our federal leader combined with 2 horrible NDP governments in the west.
 

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Central Canada views a prosperous western Canada via the resource industry as a threat to the economic control and dominance that central Canada has historically had. Trudeau senior effectively nationalized the oil industry via the NEP and Trudeau junior and his minions have actually stated that the oil sands should be shut down and the oil kept in the ground. Notley and her advisors while in the opposition said the exact same thing.
Even today, with oil prices as low as they are, Alberta still contributes roughly 10 billion annually that goes to equalization payments to the federal government, who turns around and gives that money to other provinces, primarily Quebec and the maritimes. Quebec usually gets around 11 billion a year and roughly a third of the New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and PEI budgets consist of transfer payments.
The ruling elites in Ottawa and Toronto enjoy seeing western Canada in financial trouble. If we fail out here, they get to assert control by handing out money to us with conditions and strings attached, just like they always did before big oil was discovered in the late ‘40s.
The only way for Alberta and Saskatchewan to fight back and cement their place in confederation is to stop sending transfer payments to Ottawa. Do what Quebec does and set up a system where taxes generated on income and economic activity stay in the province. Quebec has set the precedence, Ottawa can’t say it’s unconstitutional because Quebec has done it for decades.
The provincial governments of Alberta and Saskatchewan, in concert with the federal government can work out a per capita cost for federally mandated responsibilities (defence, policing, border enforcement etc), and the rest of the provinces can contribute at that rate as well. Fairness for all regions of the country.
Alberta has for decades been unfairly and expensively stripped of enormous wealth from its natural resources in a way that no other province has been. Imagine if BC had to pay stumpage from every tree or a tax on every stick of lumber to the federal government....or if the maritimes had to pay a percentage of every fish caught. All that on top of the federal taxes already paid by the timber and fishing industries. They wouldn’t stand for it, yet almost all Canadians think drawing huge amounts of money out of Alberta via transfer payments is fair....that Alberta must share the money, regardless of the economic conditions present in Alberta, be they good or bad. The oil industry is cyclical. Having a trillion dollars in the bank (like Norway does) would help even out the highs and lows.
Transfer payments need to stop. Let’s hope the UCP once they’re in power will have the balls to do so and keep Alberta’s money where it rightfully belongs.
 

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i would say it is time, time to start beating the drums and load the guns, as we need to toss the cluck out of edmonton and kick the rainbow warrior out of Canada,
 
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I actually believe Ottawa is so out of touch separation is a lot closer than anyone thinks. I’m curious why it hasn’t come up yet he’s literally driven a steak into the heart of the country. If Alberta was to separate a lot of issues come with that I understand but what he is doing affects everyone. I hope People in the east start to feel his ripple effects the ultimate would be a conservative majority provincially and federally but even then it will take years to build investor confidence investment and plentiful jobs. The scariest thing is this has already been dragging on for 4 years to say most are stretched is an understatement. Housing prices, housing starts, jobs upon jobs everyone will eventually feel this if he stays in power. I must say it’s like Notley built the fire with Trudeau threw gas on it an then realized her house was the one on fire she’s come full circle but clearly still needs to go. Politics in Canada are crazy liberals come in spend endlessly on everything conservatives come in cuts to education healthcare and everything else come into play investment comes in business thrives but they cut too much piss people off with scandals and then people vote liberal again.
 

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I actually believe Ottawa is so out of touch separation is a lot closer than anyone thinks. I’m curious why it hasn’t come up yet he’s literally driven a steak into the heart of the country. If Alberta was to separate a lot of issues come with that I understand but what he is doing affects everyone. I hope People in the east start to feel his ripple effects the ultimate would be a conservative majority provincially and federally but even then it will take years to build investor confidence investment and plentiful jobs. The scariest thing is this has already been dragging on for 4 years to say most are stretched is an understatement. Housing prices, housing starts, jobs upon jobs everyone will eventually feel this if he stays in power. I must say it’s like Notley built the fire with Trudeau threw gas on it an then realized her house was the one on fire she’s come full circle but clearly still needs to go. Politics in Canada are crazy liberals come in spend endlessly on everything conservatives come in cuts to education healthcare and everything else come into play investment comes in business thrives but they cut too much piss people off with scandals and then people vote liberal again.

Is Ottawa out of touch or is Trudeau out of touch?

Kinda like throwing the baby out with the bathwater. What the Liberals and NDP figured out that most of us "conservatives" never gave much thought? That the youth and minority vote were much stronger than we ever realized. They went after that while use conservatives sat high and mighty and thought nobody was stupid enough to vote these idiots in.
 

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Lenny what you just write should be seen by the govt, media, newspaper etc. You hit the nail on the head and it was very well written. I hope it gets more exposure that just here, your voice and many others who work, and have worked in the industry should be heard.

Drayton valley just had a pro pipeline demonstration, they even invited JT to come and talk, but he was to busy.
Maybe other communities should follow suit???
 

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Lenny what you just write should be seen by the govt, media, newspaper etc. You hit the nail on the head and it was very well written. I hope it gets more exposure that just here, your voice and many others who work, and have worked in the industry should be heard.

Drayton valley just had a pro pipeline demonstration, they even invited JT to come and talk, but he was to busy.
Maybe other communities should follow suit???

I didn't write it , I copied it , and I agree with you , and him. I do have the name of the guy who wrote it.
 
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