Update on Okotoks Man who was charged with Unsafe Use of Firearm

SamStorm said:

Of course they are. Hopefully by the end of 2019 both will be hanging out in the unemployment line together.

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Cdnfireman said:

The RCMP have standing orders from the federal crown prosecutors to lay charges in firearms related incidents. The cops themselves are for the most part understanding of the plight of the rural residents. They’re so sick of the revolving door policies of the courts and re-arresting the same people over and over.

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Cdnfireman said:

The RCMP in the provinces report to the provincial solicitor general, not the federal government. They only report to Ottawa on border security or airport security issues. Other than that it’s the province that directs how they do their jobs.

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Cdnfireman said:

You don’t understand how the system works. The solicitor general is the person who sets the law enforcement policies for the province. He or she in concert with the government of the day decides how the laws will be enforced in the province. The example mentioned above was how the fish cops didn’t check for firearms licenses. The commissioner of the RCMP is responsible for how the force runs, and has nothing to do with how the laws are enforced. And by the way, he is a she.

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Keith Brown said:

OK Fireman I know that you know about the justice system as it relates to the Alberta RCMP, But based on the three posts it looks to me like you say in the first post that the Alberta RCMP are acting on a "standing order from the federal crown prosecutor" and in the second and third post you state that they "report to the provincial Solicitor General". Or maybe your right I just don't understand that its OK to change the story to match the flavour of the day. Hm are you a policy adviser to our prime minster. If not you may want to apply you would fit right in. LMAO

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X-it said:

I still believe someone in the RCMP needs to get fired over this. But how is that possible right now when we have criminals running the show. Here is what the nitwit (who ever that is) did a few years back.



https://nfa.ca/2014/03/24/eighth-letter-to-rcmp-public-complaints-commissioner-march-24-2014/

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Keith Brown said:

. There is no possible way that a Provincial Police force headed out of Edmonton can not be better for Alberta than a Federal Police force from Ottawa.
Just think about it Edmonton or Ottawa. No contest there and I know we get some really Nothead politicians in Edmonton but at least we have a say. Look at the federal scene. This province is Tory blue to the core and look at the mess we have in Ottawa today. eg. Two First Nation around a campfire can stop a pipe line that cripples the Alberta economy. Hm I wonder if it crippled the Quebec economy if the pipe line would still be shut down?????

Here is a examples of what an Alberta police force can do. Alberta Fish and wildlife is a Provincial police force with wide ranging powers in fact they are the most heavily armed officers in the province. The fact is when Chretien and Allan Rock started the Federal Gun Registry, Alberta Fish and Wildlife Officers were mandated by the justice minister of Alberta not to check for fire are registry's of any type. Wow no law enforcement service saw more guns in this province and not one registry ever checked. Sorry about that Chreitan nothing personal we just don't like you and your sh!tty laws. Imagine if the Alberta Sheriff were policing and were operating under the same mandate from the same government. Ottawa can make the rules but if we decide not to follow to bad. On the contrary RCMP in High River use the flood as an opportunity to invade their residence homes (no some but all flooded homes) and charge them with federal fire arms offences. These A Holes have no respect for personal privacy. What happen to "every mans home is his castle". In Ottawa who gives a sh!t about a few High River residence. Our Okotoks RCMP detachment has been alienating it self for a long time. Charging Eddie then continuing to harass him even after the crown drops the charges just adds to the long list of bone head moves that alienates them from the community. Hell last night I was leaving our High School Football League championship game and a boneheaded RCMP had parked his Cruiser right in the exit lane unattended. I wish that pecker head would have showed up when I was leaving. I would have told him to move back to the East, then again the law enforcement officer in the passenger seat probably would have did a little enforcement of her own, prevent an altercation from arising LMAO.

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Cdnfireman said:

The RCMP in the provinces report to the provincial solicitor general, not the federal government. They only report to Ottawa on border security or airport security issues. Other than that it’s the province that directs how they do their jobs.

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Cdnfireman said:

You don’t understand how the system works. The solicitor general is the person who sets the law enforcement policies for the province. He or she in concert with the government of the day decides how the laws will be enforced in the province. The example mentioned above was how the fish cops didn’t check for firearms licenses. The commissioner of the RCMP is responsible for how the force runs, and has nothing to do with how the laws are enforced. And by the way, he is a she.

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Cdnfireman said:

Ok. I’ll type this slowly so you can read it at your speed so you can comprehend it. The Canadian criminal code is federal law that covers the whole country. Once you commit a criminal offence or are charged with one, ( as opposed to a traffic offence, or provincial statute or bylaw) you deal with the courts and the laws as written. That’s how the crown prosecutors can direct the RCMP. The key point there is that you’ve been charged with a crime.
The RCMP do report to the provincial solicitor general. He/she is the one that sets the priorities for what the police expend their efforts on. That doesn’t mean that the cops ignore the criminal code and let people away with murder, they still have to enforce the criminal code. The solicitor general of the province can say let’s concentrate on rural crime or say let’s not concentrate on firearms license checks, but can’t say don’t charge anyone that shoots someone else or commits other criminal offences.
So it’s not changing the story to suit the situation, my mistake was assuming you were sensible enough to see the difference between How the cops have to react to a crime that has been committed vs what criminal activities to concentrate their efforts on

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Keith Brown said:

Dr Fireman you must not be typing slow enough. It seemed simple to me in the above posts you have corrected me for suggesting that a provincial police force would not have broke in to the house of the residence of High River by stating that the RCMP report to the Alberta Solicitor General thereby implying that the orders if fact came from the province. Then you stated "The commissioner of the RCMP is responsible for how the force runs, and has nothing to do with how the laws are enforced." Then you stated "The Canadian criminal code is federal law that covers the whole country. Once you commit a criminal offence or are charged with one, That’s how the crown prosecutors can direct the RCMP. by the way". Then some dude got a parking ticket and then murdered and the RCMP were confused who to talk to? WTF Just answer the question are you a policy adviser to Justin Trudeau?

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