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When does this development do trump in? What other dominos have to fall. Where does Mueller move next.
 

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The hate Trump media is reporting a flip, but actual story is a plea deal for a reduced sentence and to avoid a costly trial. Mueller pushed for this because he actually wants to wrap this up now that it has come out that the FBI fabricated the entire thing for political reasons. The texts from the FBI love birds now prove it.
No collusion.
 

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The hate Trump media is reporting a flip, but actual story is a plea deal for a reduced sentence and to avoid a costly trial. Mueller pushed for this because he actually wants to wrap this up now that it has come out that the FBI fabricated the entire thing for political reasons. The texts from the FBI love birds now prove it.
No collusion.
that how it was initially reported but it is confirmed he is cooperating fully. Manaforts fear's for his family's safety and initially plead not guilty but lost. He was facing more charges he new he could not get out of. COHEN has plead guilty. Trumps CFO has got immunity for cooperation. Rick Gates Trumps deputy campaign manager has plead guilty and cooperated against manafort in his first trial. General Micheal Flynn has plead guilty. I believe this article is fairly up to date..https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...estigated-in-trump-russia-probe-idUSKCN1LU2BH.......



some detail on manaforts plea requirements .....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n33odauHOwA
 
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If your relying on MSNBC, CNN, CBC, CTV, or any other of the hate Trump media, well good luck. They have only one mission. The truth will come out and Liberals will lose it. Trump is right again and they are all wrong. They have always been wrong since 2016 and this will be the same result.
 

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If your relying on MSNBC, CNN, CBC, CTV, or any other of the hate Trump media, well good luck. They have only one mission. The truth will come out and Liberals will lose it. Trump is right again and they are all wrong. They have always been wrong since 2016 and this will be the same result.
The only network that I know of that seems to cover Trump positively is FOX and they definitely are far to the right. I think I will start to watch ABC, CBS and PBS to see how they interpret the same news. When Trump was first elected I started to follow american politics. Mueller has been methodically investigating anything relevant to his mandate and has been very successful thus far. It will be interesting to see where this goes Neil but I do not see this ending well for Trump. He has the advantage of having both a republican senate and Congress at least until November.
 

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I am not sure about the Mueller investigation as from time to time it does seem a little "out there." What I am pretty sure about is Trump is so full of BS that he has no credibility with really anyone except his die hard supporters. I am completely confident that while he has dodged his way around this investigation so far, when I see "the wall" built and paid for by Mexico I will believe he is not guilty of colluding with the Russians.

If your relying on MSNBC, CNN, CBC, CTV, or any other of the hate Trump media, well good luck. They have only one mission. The truth will come out and Liberals will lose it. Trump is right again and they are all wrong. They have always been wrong since 2016 and this will be the same result.
 

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I am not sure about the Mueller investigation as from time to time it does seem a little "out there." What I am pretty sure about is Trump is so full of BS that he has no credibility with really anyone except his die hard supporters. I am completely confident that while he has dodged his way around this investigation so far, when I see "the wall" built and paid for by Mexico I will believe he is not guilty of colluding with the Russians.
well said.... he is allergic to the truth
 

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With all honesty you shouldn’t believe everything you read right away from any news source. We won’t really know the full truth until it is all over. But I do have to say I have been eating a lot of popcorn watching this **** go down. It will be interesting the reaction on both sides after this is all over, who will swallow their pride, who will continue with the conspiracy, who will be in denial etc.
 

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Don’t you think if anything was there it would be out 2 years after the election, just like fake media making stuff up now they are trying to create fake testimony.
 

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Popcorn for you? Booze for me. It is all so nasty and Trumps hero one day is the target of one of his nasty nicknames. He doesn't seem to have progressed socially much past grade 7.

With all honesty you shouldn’t believe everything you read right away from any news source. We won’t really know the full truth until it is all over. But I do have to say I have been eating a lot of popcorn watching this **** go down. It will be interesting the reaction on both sides after this is all over, who will swallow their pride, who will continue with the conspiracy, who will be in denial etc.
 

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Haha. There are still people that go on and on about the Clintons and the Whitewater investigations https://www.vox.com/2015/4/13/8397309/hillary-clinton-whitewater

Really, who should give a flying f*ck but they still drag that crap out on slow news days. Trump is really just dining on the same crap he likes to dish out. You know, stuff like Obama was born in Kenya etc. As I understand it, you probably can't lock up POTUS but there is certainly an active part of the US that like to do whatever they can to irritate him. Equally amusing to me are his die hard supporters.

We have our own special leadership. Looking forward to midterms in the US to see what the voters are thinking. In Canada, we have to wait until the end of October 2019 to see if JT will get a chance to see if the budget balances itself. Good grief. Here's to hoping the conservative put someone out there who appeals to enough people for a change back to logical instead of emotion driven.

Don’t you think if anything was there it would be out 2 years after the election, just like fake media making stuff up now they are trying to create fake testimony.
 

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Mueller was appointed by the deputy attorney general and was a former fbi director for 12 years, would think this holds a little more water than those still investigating the clintons form the 90s. Or the guys with their tinfoil hats on looking for Obama’s birth certificate.
 

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Yes - seems like a waste of time but who knows where the investigation will go. Took years to finally get John Gotti on something. I don't think Trump is a gangster but suspect his business dealings are less than straight forward.

Mueller was appointed by the deputy attorney general and was a former fbi director for 12 years, would think this holds a little more water than those still investigating the clintons form the 90s. Or the guys with their tinfoil hats on looking for Obama’s birth certificate.
 

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Yes - seems like a waste of time but who knows where the investigation will go. Took years to finally get John Gotti on something. I don't think Trump is a gangster but suspect his business dealings are less than straight forward.

So what? That's actually one of the biggest problems in politics today. There are so many people who value whether someone is nice and plays by the rules more than they value or appreciate the successes and the positives they bring to the people who voted them into office. Seems like quite often the ones who were always nice and proper actually accomplished the least in the long run. But some whose motives are actually intended to improve the situation have personal habits or personality traits that the journalists or people who have contro
of the cameras don't like, so the PC crowd love to vilify them , regardless of any positives they post up.
 
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you in business? Over 30 years I have come across those "business types" that are ruthless and cut throat which is the exact opposite how I run my company..... which is successful I may add. These guys will eventually get what is coming to them in one form or another. Seen them fail and they fall hard!

So what? That's actually one of the biggest problems in politics today. There are so many people who value whether someone is nice and plays by the rules more than they value or appreciate the successes and the positives they bring to the people who voted them into office. Seems like quite often the ones who were always nice and proper actually accomplished the least in the long run. But some whose motives are actually intended to improve the situation have personal habits or personality traits that the journalists or people who have contro
of the cameras don't like, so the PC crowd love to vilify them , regardless of any positives they post up.
 

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It’s all a huge waste of time and money... after how many months and no evidence whatsoever proving Russian collusion....none of these trump associates have been convicted of anything regarding the election....two facts remain....Hillary lost the election, and regardless of what the mueller investigation reveals, trump has the power under the constitution to pardon everyone, including himself for any wrongdoing.
Time for everyone to move on.
 

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Yeah I don't think 25 charges are exactly nothing. As far as I can tell none of this has anything to do with Hillary. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17031772/mueller-indictments-grand-jury

It’s all a huge waste of time and money... after how many months and no evidence whatsoever proving Russian collusion....none of these trump associates have been convicted of anything regarding the election....two facts remain....Hillary lost the election, and regardless of what the mueller investigation reveals, trump has the power under the constitution to pardon everyone, including himself for any wrongdoing.
Time for everyone to move on.
 

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Yeah I don't think 25 charges are exactly nothing. As far as I can tell none of this has anything to do with Hillary. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/2/20/17031772/mueller-indictments-grand-jury

Hmmm
...and what has been proven other than how much better Trump is than Obaama was......
Absulutlyfawkinnothin!
lol
Just a bunch cryin cause it's not what some people want and nobody can push Trump off his path.
USA middle class love him.
AKA the working people that carry the load.
 
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