new garage build

eclipse1966 · Jul 25, 2018

we got our extra garage/shop built 25 x 30 with a 450 sq ft outside entrance loft at $60,000 grand which included $4500 to re-engineer our sand mound for our septic, a heater mounted on the ceiling and all dry wall/sanded/painted in the loft. I used plywood for inside walls and painted them white (shop portion). This was all in costs with 220 wiring etc etc. Only mistake I did was not enough lighting especially when garage door is open it covers 3 LED fixtures.

NoBrakes! · Jul 25, 2018

eclipse1966 said:
we got our extra garage/shop built 25 x 30 with a 450 sq ft outside entrance loft at $60,000 grand which included $4500 to re-engineer our sand mound for our septic, a heater mounted on the ceiling and all dry wall/sanded/painted in the loft. I used plywood for inside walls and painted them white (shop portion). This was all in costs with 220 wiring etc etc. Only mistake I did was not enough lighting especially when garage door is open it covers 3 LED fixtures.

seen the doors cover many lights... that and center sumps seem to be a pain, might do one in each bay?

busted2x · Jul 25, 2018

NoBrakes! said:
Is in floor the way to go? I'll be doing a lot of the grunt work and we are lucky enough to have a ton of tradesman friends and family. Ive assisted laying and tied rebar and in floor pipe before. thanks for the engineered pad heads up, might shrink it or is it worth getting engineered?

Never do anything without it. Will blow your mind how fast stuff dries when you pull in in the winter, no water on the floors, nice to lay on, less fatigue when workin on it, and like 1/4 the gas bill. A little more cost to put in, but absolutely worth it. Plus if you want a vent in the garage you can do what I did in my last one, had a wall fan for exhaust, and a rad mounted in the ceiling so it drew air from the attic and had warm air coming in even it winter. Just run it as it’s own zone!

kovs · Jul 26, 2018

Beels said:
I'm looking to get one done this year, as well. What does everyone recommend to finish the interior with? The last one I had had OSB sheeting inside that was painted by the previous owner. Do that again, drywall or tin?

For not much more you can do 3/4” plywood instead of osb or drywall

52weekbreak · Jul 26, 2018

NoBrakes! said:
seen the doors cover many lights... that and center sumps seem to be a pain, might do one in each bay?

http://www.u-drain.ca/ Pretty cool way to direct water to a sump. Saw it at UFA today when picking up some fence posts.

Cdnfireman · Jul 27, 2018

52weekbreak said:
http://www.u-drain.ca/ Pretty cool way to direct water to a sump. Saw it at UFA today when picking up some fence posts.

Any idea of pricing?

52weekbreak · Jul 27, 2018

Cdnfireman said:
Any idea of pricing?

No idea. After pouring my two sumps and doing all the rebar bending and welding to hold the grating I would happily spend a $1,000 bucks to not do that again. I would guess about $30 a foot

Cyle · Jul 27, 2018

52weekbreak said:
No idea. After pouring my two sumps and doing all the rebar bending and welding to hold the grating I would happily spend a $1,000 bucks to not do that again. I would guess about $30 a foot

Seems like a ok system, but many flaws. I prefer trench drain. PIA to set right, but in the end is a great drain.

Cyle · Jul 27, 2018

NoBrakes! said:
Is in floor the way to go? I'll be doing a lot of the grunt work and we are lucky enough to have a ton of tradesman friends and family. Ive assisted laying and tied rebar and in floor pipe before. thanks for the engineered pad heads up, might shrink it or is it worth getting engineered?

Biggest question is, is this a forever type home, or just short term? You will not get the resale value going all out on a 30x30 shop. 95% of people will not care if you spent an extra $30k building it.

In floor is nice if you will be working doing things on the ground a lot. Floor drying quicker? Honestly who cares, a good furnace and fan does a good job if you have a drain. To rough it in doesn't cost a whole lot, and you could do a decent system somewhat reasonable, but not up to code. Going all out with styrofoam underneath slab, boiler, etc is not cheap. But skip the foam and go with a water heater? Works fine and won't break the bank, but not something that is allowed in most places.

Engineering isn't much, it's just standard specs they use based on size. Depending on where you are building not all places require it.

gotboost · Jul 31, 2018

Just about finished building one 34 by 32 12 foot walls 2 14 by 10 garage doors all high end doors turn key I am into it for just over $60,000 That's tin on roof walls and inside icf block 4 foot frost wall 6 inch concrete floor concrete is $240 meter and the pump truck is $210/hr min 3 hrs and $9 bucks a meter for pump charge

NoBrakes! · Jul 31, 2018

I did not want to hear 60K lol... I like your style

gotboost · Jul 31, 2018

Thats without the $6000 epoxy floor and the new Bendpak lift and the $6000 garage cabinets haha I have a set of trusses that would work for you if your interested I would sell you

Cdnfireman · Jul 31, 2018

Cyle said:
Biggest question is, is this a forever type home, or just short term? You will not get the resale value going all out on a 30x30 shop. 95% of people will not care if you spent an extra $30k building it.

In floor is nice if you will be working doing things on the ground a lot. Floor drying quicker? Honestly who cares, a good furnace and fan does a good job if you have a drain. To rough it in doesn't cost a whole lot, and you could do a decent system somewhat reasonable, but not up to code. Going all out with styrofoam underneath slab, boiler, etc is not cheap. But skip the foam and go with a water heater? Works fine and won't break the bank, but not something that is allowed in most places.

Engineering isn't much, it's just standard specs they use based on size. Depending on where you are building not all places require it.

You don’t need a dedicated boiler. Most guys use on demand water heaters like the renais. Biggest downside of in slab heating is the slow recovery time if you have to leave a door open in cold weather.
Best money invested is in the insulation. In our climate insulation is a long term investment, not a cost.

Cdnfireman · Jul 31, 2018

gotboost said:
Just about finished building one 34 by 32 12 foot walls 2 14 by 10 garage doors all high end doors turn key I am into it for just over $60,000 That's tin on roof walls and inside icf block 4 foot frost wall 6 inch concrete floor concrete is $240 meter and the pump truck is $210/hr min 3 hrs and $9 bucks a meter for pump charge

Just curious, why the frost wall. Was a floating slab not an option for you?

Cyle · Jul 31, 2018

gotboost said:
Just about finished building one 34 by 32 12 foot walls 2 14 by 10 garage doors all high end doors turn key I am into it for just over $60,000 That's tin on roof walls and inside icf block 4 foot frost wall 6 inch concrete floor concrete is $240 meter and the pump truck is $210/hr min 3 hrs and $9 bucks a meter for pump charge

Ouch where are you that concrete is that pricey? Paying $170/meter here and $160/hr for pump.

Cyle · Jul 31, 2018

Cdnfireman said:
You don’t need a dedicated boiler. Most guys use on demand water heaters like the renais. Biggest downside of in slab heating is the slow recovery time if you have to leave a door open in cold weather.
Best money invested is in the insulation. In our climate insulation is a long term investment, not a cost.

Well it's a difference if you're talking attached garage, compared to detached. Much more costly and difficult with a detached to run water.

Thing is unless you're working on the floor a lot, a furnace is a much better and cheaper option. It cost me under $1500 to heat my 1200 sq/ft garage with a furnace. Infloor would be at least 10 times that and not be better in the end, in many ways worse as recovery time is awful.

Cyle · Jul 31, 2018

NoBrakes! said:
I did not want to hear 60K lol... I like your style

You can do it pretty budget, or go to an insane amount.

Likely building a detached 24x32ish next year, including heat, 5" floor everything I know it will cost me under $15k.

Joholio · Jul 31, 2018

Another vote for in floor heating. Stop by my 30x40x16h shop for a beer in the winter and we will put that recovery time nonsense to rest

Joholio · Jul 31, 2018

We can doo a side by side comparison with the 16x40 lean to bay which has an overhead tube heater. Open both doors for ten minutes and then close em and compare.

gotboost · Jul 31, 2018

Cdnfireman said:
Just curious, why the frost wall. Was a floating slab not an option for you?

That's what the county wanted

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