Caper11
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Unless there is a nitrogen blanket on the line.
Kinder Morgan
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skegpro
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Build a truck/rail load terminal wherever it ends to take it the rest of the way lol.
https://boereport.com/2018/04/22/fa...-canada-moving-oil-one-truckload-at-a-time-2/
Cdnfireman
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The Alberta government should buy/hire/lease a few hundred B train tankers and haul the oil through Burnaby and the rest of the lower mainland 24-7 and plug up the roads with truck traffic hauling oil. See how that goes over with the locals.
Stompin Tom
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you bet, and you could use those Calgary driving schools to supply the drivers.
freeflorider
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LOL too funny.
LennyR
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A lawyer/politician with common sense , Few and far between in BC
I’m a proud British Columbian but would be ashamed to show my face in Calgary today.
Firstly, we are looking like a bunch of selfish navel-gazers, mindless of the fortunes of fellow Canadians. In the case of Albertans, the jobs we threaten relate to people who have for decades borne a disproportionate percentage of Canada’s financial burden. Can’t we find a way help our countrywomen and countrymen without harming ourselves?
That question leads to the second point, that pipeline opponents appear to reject out of hand even the most stringent environmental protections. Those of us who advocate for B.C.’s splendid environment should be able to find some world-class environmental protection standards in which we can put our faith. Few places in the world have the protections that we have, to guard against petroleum spills, on land or at sea. As I argued in the House of Commons, the environment is the economy; we can stand for both. Mindlessly to reject resource development rejects our invaluable assets as Canadians and dismisses a generation of excellent, environment-related technology developed and applied by some of the word’s top experts — Canadian experts.
The third disheartening aspect of the pipeline debate is the debilitating nature of government leaders who make up the rules as they go along. Kinder Morgan has stood by and seen the other two large pipeline projects die — Northern Gateway and Energy East. The company has witnessed the complete paralysis of LNG projects on the West Coast. It has still agreed to 157 difficult conditions and negotiated agreements with 43 Indigenous communities along its route. Remember, this is to develop a pipeline the most of which falls within the company’s existing right-of-way. If a government such as the one in Victoria can reverse such daunting approval processes, what investment in the province is safe? Which foreigner — or British Columbian — would dare to invest in such a mercurial climate? Even a left-leaning prime minister and further left-leaning Alberta premier understand this fundamental truth — add enough uncertainty and investment capital flees.
A fourth disconcerting point is the most ironic. Those who disregard the importance of a robust economy will be the first to demand higher, more expensive environmental controls, social benefits, and health care. Funded by whom?
As ever, a small minority of belligerent protesters seize the lion’s share of media coverage. What can those of us British Columbians do to raise our voices, who welcome investment in our province, who want jobs for ourselves and our kids, who respect the rule of law, and who care about the interests of Albertans and other Canadians as well as our own?
The majority of British Columbians understand that pipelines are safer than trucks or trains in transporting petroleum. The majority of British Columbians are not so hypocritical as to drive their cars to environmental protests. The majority of British Columbians care about the environment. We want the world’s best technology and processes in place to protect our majestic oceans and world-renowned natural beauty. Historically, we’ve had the guts to pursue excellence in this province in every imaginable field. There’s every reason to believe we can develop our resources responsibly and protect our world-renowned environment in a world-class way.
Indigenous leaders’ consultation has been extensive and Kinder Morgan claims it has agreement from 43 Indigenous Communities. The Indian Resource Council and other organizations acknowledge the enormous benefits Indigenous Communities will realize if the project gets completed. Pipeline protesters now claim that any First Nation which withholds support should be able to block the project. Such thinking effectively condemns any project to failure in the absence of unanimous consent, an unheard-of approval level in any democracy, totally unworkable in a 21st Century economy.
In my experience, most British Columbians share four characteristics — the Four E’s:
• we’re proud of our Environment, and keen to protect it;
• we stand up for our Economy because it provides us health care, education, and other ingredients of our high quality of life;
• we promote the Empowerment of Indigenous People; and
• we want an Effective Federation, one where governments work cooperatively for the benefit of all Canadians.
Unfortunately, it’s typically those who oppose an initiative who come out to protest. Those in favour stay home. So maybe it’s time we who believe in the Four E’s raise our voices. As I pondered the possibility of starting a rally in support of responsible resource development, I encountered a fledgling organization that seeks to give voice to people with the characteristics listed above. Have a look at Resourceworks, not a company nor a political party, but a group that is trying to give voice to counterbalance the naysayers. Any concerned citizen should have a look at its Citizen’s Guide to Tanker Safety and Spill Response on the British Columbia South Coast. Resourceworks has already organized one rally for concerned citizens who support responsible resource development. If you care about the Four E’s, maybe we’ll see each other at the next one.
I’m a proud British Columbian but would be ashamed to show my face in Calgary today.
Firstly, we are looking like a bunch of selfish navel-gazers, mindless of the fortunes of fellow Canadians. In the case of Albertans, the jobs we threaten relate to people who have for decades borne a disproportionate percentage of Canada’s financial burden. Can’t we find a way help our countrywomen and countrymen without harming ourselves?
That question leads to the second point, that pipeline opponents appear to reject out of hand even the most stringent environmental protections. Those of us who advocate for B.C.’s splendid environment should be able to find some world-class environmental protection standards in which we can put our faith. Few places in the world have the protections that we have, to guard against petroleum spills, on land or at sea. As I argued in the House of Commons, the environment is the economy; we can stand for both. Mindlessly to reject resource development rejects our invaluable assets as Canadians and dismisses a generation of excellent, environment-related technology developed and applied by some of the word’s top experts — Canadian experts.
The third disheartening aspect of the pipeline debate is the debilitating nature of government leaders who make up the rules as they go along. Kinder Morgan has stood by and seen the other two large pipeline projects die — Northern Gateway and Energy East. The company has witnessed the complete paralysis of LNG projects on the West Coast. It has still agreed to 157 difficult conditions and negotiated agreements with 43 Indigenous communities along its route. Remember, this is to develop a pipeline the most of which falls within the company’s existing right-of-way. If a government such as the one in Victoria can reverse such daunting approval processes, what investment in the province is safe? Which foreigner — or British Columbian — would dare to invest in such a mercurial climate? Even a left-leaning prime minister and further left-leaning Alberta premier understand this fundamental truth — add enough uncertainty and investment capital flees.
A fourth disconcerting point is the most ironic. Those who disregard the importance of a robust economy will be the first to demand higher, more expensive environmental controls, social benefits, and health care. Funded by whom?
As ever, a small minority of belligerent protesters seize the lion’s share of media coverage. What can those of us British Columbians do to raise our voices, who welcome investment in our province, who want jobs for ourselves and our kids, who respect the rule of law, and who care about the interests of Albertans and other Canadians as well as our own?
The majority of British Columbians understand that pipelines are safer than trucks or trains in transporting petroleum. The majority of British Columbians are not so hypocritical as to drive their cars to environmental protests. The majority of British Columbians care about the environment. We want the world’s best technology and processes in place to protect our majestic oceans and world-renowned natural beauty. Historically, we’ve had the guts to pursue excellence in this province in every imaginable field. There’s every reason to believe we can develop our resources responsibly and protect our world-renowned environment in a world-class way.
Indigenous leaders’ consultation has been extensive and Kinder Morgan claims it has agreement from 43 Indigenous Communities. The Indian Resource Council and other organizations acknowledge the enormous benefits Indigenous Communities will realize if the project gets completed. Pipeline protesters now claim that any First Nation which withholds support should be able to block the project. Such thinking effectively condemns any project to failure in the absence of unanimous consent, an unheard-of approval level in any democracy, totally unworkable in a 21st Century economy.
In my experience, most British Columbians share four characteristics — the Four E’s:
• we’re proud of our Environment, and keen to protect it;
• we stand up for our Economy because it provides us health care, education, and other ingredients of our high quality of life;
• we promote the Empowerment of Indigenous People; and
• we want an Effective Federation, one where governments work cooperatively for the benefit of all Canadians.
Unfortunately, it’s typically those who oppose an initiative who come out to protest. Those in favour stay home. So maybe it’s time we who believe in the Four E’s raise our voices. As I pondered the possibility of starting a rally in support of responsible resource development, I encountered a fledgling organization that seeks to give voice to people with the characteristics listed above. Have a look at Resourceworks, not a company nor a political party, but a group that is trying to give voice to counterbalance the naysayers. Any concerned citizen should have a look at its Citizen’s Guide to Tanker Safety and Spill Response on the British Columbia South Coast. Resourceworks has already organized one rally for concerned citizens who support responsible resource development. If you care about the Four E’s, maybe we’ll see each other at the next one.
skegpro
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And here is your answer folks.
But hookers will soon be legal.
If you haven't bailed from the Oilfield yet, you may want to consider it if these ass clowns get re elected in 2019.
Unreal.
http://edmontonjournal.com/news/pol...cial&utm_source=Facebook#link_time=1524577104
But hookers will soon be legal.
If you haven't bailed from the Oilfield yet, you may want to consider it if these ass clowns get re elected in 2019.
Unreal.
http://edmontonjournal.com/news/pol...cial&utm_source=Facebook#link_time=1524577104
imdoo'n
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and you wonder why pipelines are not being built. TRUDUMB
http://edmontonjournal.com/news/pol...cial&utm_source=Facebook#link_time=1524577104
http://edmontonjournal.com/news/pol...cial&utm_source=Facebook#link_time=1524577104
imdoo'n
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eclipse1966
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its not just our Canadian pipelines having problems getting approval but more from the US as well.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/enbridge-line3-oilpatch-oilsands-1.4632086?cmp=FB_Post_News
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/enbridge-line3-oilpatch-oilsands-1.4632086?cmp=FB_Post_News
skegpro
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Well isn't this some ****.
Our government is funding the kinder Morgan protestors.
Our government is funding the kinder Morgan protestors.
imdoo'n
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what a shocker eh! another stall and delay tactic, i will be surprised if that pipeline ever gets built, just a bit more than 30 days to go. when is anti oil nutley shutting down the fuel to BC, a week before the deadline? are we all that dumb?
Got boost want snow
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Read on the news this morning that the Supreme Court rules that it is against the law for Alberta to limit the flow for monetary gain. So I guess we just run out of oil/gas to ship them as it is for our needs only. And with our federal government supplying funds for protestors.
sirkdev
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So does anybody else feel that we should go all mad max on this deal? I’ll drive..
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skegpro
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..........
pano-dude
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Wow this is beyond stupid.
skegpro
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Reading Dogwoods Facebook page makes my head hurt.
Alternative reality for these folks.
Alternative reality for these folks.
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In a way I hope KM pulls the plug. Pretty sick of hearing Turdeau talk about how his govt gets pipeline deals done and Harper did no pipeline deal in his 10 years. Crayon boy just sounds like a broken record.
Caper11
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Lol, I was thinking the samething the other day, But everyone knows he talks with a forked tongue, and is two faced. Right now JT is winning, if this line doesnt go through just like enbridges line 3 that is also in jeopardy, hes won and will probably use it as a campaign image for his next term.
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