Just in case you are wondering how BC works

S.W.A.T. · Feb 21, 2018

For anyone outside the province who doesn't really understand how B.C. votes and why it is so hard for the common person to survive here is a map showing a little bit of what the rural people are up against and how separated the province is.

Sadly we are at the mercy of the lower wasteland

08arcticcat · Feb 21, 2018

2017 vote results

X-it · Feb 21, 2018

And had Stikine voted liberal instead of NDP we would not be dealing with this massive spending, closing down pipe lines and adding 500million more debt to site C dam. Lets see next year what happens to the 2.7 billion dollar surplus the liberals brought in.

ferniesnow · Feb 21, 2018

Look at that little piece of Green................and they are in control???????????????

S.W.A.T. · Feb 21, 2018

X-it said:
And had Stikine voted liberal instead of NDP we would not be dealing with this massive spending, closing down pipe lines and adding 500million more debt to site C dam. Lets see next year what happens to the 2.7 billion dollar surplus the liberals brought in.

Stakine is always NDP..... unfortunately grrrr

Cableguy · Feb 21, 2018

typical whinyest people get what they want rest of us working stiffs get the shaft

Shadam · Feb 21, 2018

So glad I don't live in that little green zone Haha ... Sometimes listening to rock 101 and the traffic reports make me smile ... Always a gong show ...

Bnorth · Feb 22, 2018

Stikine has high first nations population and more hippies than most would expect so naturally they vote NDP.

Scrambled · Feb 22, 2018

S.W.A.T. said:
Stakine is always NDP..... unfortunately grrrr

If I'm not mistaken wasn't it the liberals that wanted site c knowing we really didn't need it but went for it anyways,and that 2 billion surplus is pretty close to what the took from ICBC that we are now dealing with which will cost us all more now.I have said it before that I am not a fan of any of our political parties but you seem to think the liberals were so great I wish I had some of your rose coloured glasses to see what you see,threw my eyes they did nothing but cut jobs,help there rich buddy's,cater to the imagrents in hongcouver,and sell off assets to balance the budget.not to great I'm my view but hey if you think that's all good,good for you,no I'm not a supporter of the NDP I hate them all equally but to say the libs are so much better is a joke to me.yes I do support the pipeline if the people in charge can prove they can clean up a spill in a fast efficient way and that the water around my place won't be FD up by some tankerim all for it,so far haven't seen much on that front yet.I realize most on this site are land locked and it's hard to see the big picture of what a big spill would do to my little area of the planet but it would be a catastrophe to us who live here, personally to myself there will be very little to any benefits to us here on the island just alot of risk.I do understand that aton of jobs out in Alberta relly on it so that's why I do support it so if they could show me the latest and greatest equipment and a fast response with compatent the people running it I would be even a bigger supporter.tired of typing so that's it for now.ive ruffled enough feathers.��

Summitric · Feb 22, 2018

scrambled said:
if i'm not mistaken wasn't it the liberals that wanted site c knowing we really didn't need it but went for it anyways,and that 2 billion surplus is pretty close to what the took from icbc that we are now dealing with which will cost us all more now.i have said it before that i am not a fan of any of our political parties but you seem to think the liberals were so great i wish i had some of your rose coloured glasses to see what you see,threw my eyes they did nothing but cut jobs,help there rich buddy's,cater to the imagrents in hongcouver,and sell off assets to balance the budget.not to great i'm my view but hey if you think that's all good,good for you,no i'm not a supporter of the ndp i hate them all equally but to say the libs are so much better is a joke to me.yes i do support the pipeline if the people in charge can prove they can clean up a spill in a fast efficient way and that the water around my place won't be fd up by some tankerim all for it,so far haven't seen much on that front yet.i realize most on this site are land locked and it's hard to see the big picture of what a big spill would do to my little area of the planet but it would be a catastrophe to us who live here, personally to myself there will be very little to any benefits to us here on the island just alot of risk.i do understand that aton of jobs out in alberta relly on it so that's why i do support it so if they could show me the latest and greatest equipment and a fast response with compatent the people running it i would be even a bigger supporter.tired of typing so that's it for now.ive ruffled enough feathers.��

you do realize there are 10 - 20 supertankers full of crude going through the strait between the island and vancouver every day from alaska to seattle area, and vice versa?

Teth-Air · Feb 22, 2018

Summitric said:
you do realize there are 10 - 20 supertankers full of crude going through the strait between the island and vancouver every day from alaska to seattle area, and vice versa?

Well, all we need to do is charge a toll. If NAFTA is on the way out, toll on the way in!

Scrambled · Feb 22, 2018

Summitric said:
you do realize there are 10 - 20 supertankers full of crude going through the strait between the island and vancouver every day from alaska to seattle area, and vice versa?

Actually they go on the outside of the island and through the Juan da Fuca straight into puoget sound,not past vancouver.like I said though all I want to see is us being properly equipped to deal fast and efficient if there ever is one and not on my dime.i really don't think that's to much to ask from a company that stands to make a ton of money off of it.tanker traffic will triple out of port of Vancouver so that's triple the threat of a spill.If there ever was a spill all you folks would say I geeze that sucks but my little chunk of paradise would be ruined for many years to come or are all you oil workers going to rush out here with your mops and spill pads? I don't think so,I'm all for getting your product to market just prove to me if ever **** hits the fan someone has the skills and equipment needed to handle it fast cause as of now there not a hope.

S.W.A.T. · Feb 22, 2018

Scrambled said:
If I'm not mistaken wasn't it the liberals that wanted site c knowing we really didn't need it but went for it anyways,and that 2 billion surplus is pretty close to what the took from ICBC that we are now dealing with which will cost us all more now.I have said it before that I am not a fan of any of our political parties but you seem to think the liberals were so great I wish I had some of your rose coloured glasses to see what you see,threw my eyes they did nothing but cut jobs,help there rich buddy's,cater to the imagrents in hongcouver,and sell off assets to balance the budget.not to great I'm my view but hey if you think that's all good,good for you,no I'm not a supporter of the NDP I hate them all equally but to say the libs are so much better is a joke to me.yes I do support the pipeline if the people in charge can prove they can clean up a spill in a fast efficient way and that the water around my place won't be FD up by some tankerim all for it,so far haven't seen much on that front yet.I realize most on this site are land locked and it's hard to see the big picture of what a big spill would do to my little area of the planet but it would be a catastrophe to us who live here, personally to myself there will be very little to any benefits to us here on the island just alot of risk.I do understand that aton of jobs out in Alberta relly on it so that's why I do support it so if they could show me the latest and greatest equipment and a fast response with compatent the people running it I would be even a bigger supporter.tired of typing so that's it for now.ive ruffled enough feathers.��

You really have a unique way of sorting through my words and making accusations towards me and how I think. First of I NEVER ONCE said I thought the liberal's are so great but when it's really a two party system yes I will vote for the lesser of the two evils especially when I feel it is more beneficial to my income, my job and our economy.

Second since you brought it up and for whatever reason choose to make a argument about it I was never in favor of the site c project as it is my opinion and was not convinced it was needed but rather met a political agenda before the election making it look like they created so many jobs.

Thirdly you can have my "rose colored glasses" to help pick out whatever crawled up your arse prior to making accusations and putting words in my mouth.

When you live in a area that votes both provincially and federally for the NDP your area never receives any funding. Bulkley Stakine is the largest riding in the province given the land mass and up until a few year ago hey 16 west of pg was considered a class c road. Natives tend to vote, actually the government will pick them up and maybe others too and bring them to voting booths. And there is a large number of natives in this region.

Next time for whatever reason you choose to try and pick me a part for no reason eat a Snickers first because you don't make any sense when you make accusations towards someone you don't know

Scrambled · Feb 22, 2018

S.W.A.T. said:
You really have a unique way of sorting through my words and making accusations towards me and how I think. First of I NEVER ONCE said I thought the liberal's are so great but when it's really a two party system yes I will vote for the lesser of the two evils especially when I feel it is more beneficial to my income, my job and our economy.

Second since you brought it up and for whatever reason choose to make a argument about it I was never in favor of the site c project as it is my opinion and was not convinced it was needed but rather met a political agenda before the election making it look like they created so many jobs.

Thirdly you can have my "rose colored glasses" to help pick out whatever crawled up your arse prior to making accusations and putting words in my mouth.

When you live in a area that votes both provincially and federally for the NDP your area never receives any funding. Bulkley Stakine is the largest riding in the province given the land mass and up until a few year ago hey 16 west of pg was considered a class c road. Natives tend to vote, actually the government will pick them up and maybe others too and bring them to voting booths. And there is a large number of natives in this region.

Next time for whatever reason you choose to try and pick me a part for no reason eat a Snickers first because you don't make any sense when you make accusations towards someone you don't know

Well I opolagize if you think I was attacking you personally that was not my intention,I was just trying to point out how baffle I am that people would rather have the same old crooks in power just because they think it is the best of both evils,that's like telling them it's ok to shaft us working folk,in my opinion you vote there asses out try something new and if they f up there gone next election to,as far as site c we are on the same page except I don't blame the people in power now for that,I'm glad there going to finish it, already invested lots into it plus awesome employment for those in the region and all over but had it never been started I would have been happier.l myself come from a liberal riding,has been for very long time,still never got much if anything in our area for the average Joe or infrastructure improvements just cuts but the old retired folk(which is the largest demographic here) don't care about that stuff so they vote liberal.i don't really care what the title of the party is,I just want a leader that will help the average family out not the rich all the time. I'm not here to argue on the internet kinda pointless but I do not agree with letting the government get away with not doing the best they can with my dollar for all my province.once again sorry if I offended you,not my intention,just have trouble grasping the best of the worst mentality most have on here,it's up to us to make whoever is in power accountable for there mistakes.

X-it · Feb 22, 2018

It is a good thing there was no government funded Drunks like David Suzuki pushing his windmill theory on the site C panel. That's all we needed was thousands of Bird Slicers whirling around in BC. Any government agenda's based on kick backs and payoffs like the CBC , David Suzuki foundation should have to sit down with an interview with Ezra Lavant and answer a few questions. No they get to run and hide when he shows up...why???????? And voters swallowed all the lies they told and are telling.

LBZ · Feb 22, 2018

I feel site c is needed. Maybe not today, but with the way electric vehicles and heating are being pushed and growing I believe in 10-20 years it will be utilized fully.

As for the pipeline the strait and salish sea are reasonably safe routes navigated by dozens of ships daily. Yes traffic will increase with a terminal expansion but not by the amount some predict imo. The extra volume just isn't going to be there for the 400 ships a year some predict. Hell there probably aren't that many tankers not being currently utilized to meet that kind of number.

I do believe a terminal to the south is a better choice however than the one currently being used. Spreads the traffic out a little better.

eclipse1966 · Feb 23, 2018

if our fearless leaders had any kind of business sense the issue about protecting our BC environment and the cost associated to clean up an spill can be mitigated pretty easy. Simply put xxx of billions of dollars in a interest generated trust fund to be contributed by governments and industry alike and should the spill happen there is money to clean up the mess. I realize there is more to dollars and cents at stake and oil spills do cause disasters but where do we begin and where do we stop industry not only in Canada but world wide in the name of environmental protection.

Summitric · Feb 23, 2018

Wait... The title of this thread is deceiving... Lol. I didn't think anyone in bc worked. Thought they were all freeloading granola munching hippies, living off ganja and butterflies and hugging trees? Lmao

eclipse1966 · Feb 23, 2018

you have been watching too much Disney channel

Summitric said:
Wait... The title of this thread is deceiving... Lol. I didn't think anyone in bc worked. Thought they were all freeloading granola munching hippies, living off ganja and butterflies and hugging trees? Lmao

Summitric · Feb 23, 2018

eclipse1966 said:
you have been watching too much disney channel

yah, and discovery channel... David suzuki said ******

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