Question about Log Truck Drivers.

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Canfor is avoiding it I guess. Maybe because its still burning
 

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Isn't there a bunch of burnt wood south of Houston from the 2017 fires?
 

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Not to my knowledge. We didn't have much for fires in 2017. Williams lake got it bad that year
 

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West of Quesnel was bad too but I guess that will end up at Plateau or in Quesnel.
 

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West of Quesnel was bad too but I guess that will end up at Plateau or in Quesnel.

Lots of beetle kill west of Quesnel, if the fires hit that the mills have no use for the wood. One other problem with burnt wood, chip quality, pulp mills dont want any burn wood chips hitting their piles, mills get allot of revenue from the chips so they dont take the risk of hurting quality.
 

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Lots of beetle kill west of Quesnel, if the fires hit that the mills have no use for the wood. One other problem with burnt wood, chip quality, pulp mills dont want any burn wood chips hitting their piles, mills get allot of revenue from the chips so they dont take the risk of hurting quality.
But they dont have to pay stumpage so it's kind 50/50.
 

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Off to cut some burnt wood in a few weeks, lightly scorched so it shouldn’t be to dirty or wasteful. Bcts has a burn sale advertised right now with $26 stumpage on it...go figure they must think there full of gold.
 

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Lots of beetle kill west of Quesnel, if the fires hit that the mills have no use for the wood. One other problem with burnt wood, chip quality, pulp mills dont want any burn wood chips hitting their piles, mills get allot of revenue from the chips so they dont take the risk of hurting quality.

Unless prices are high most mills basically break even on the lumber and the chips/sawdust/hog are the profit. Usually burned logs just go through the debarker twice to get all the carbon off then they still make chip quality.

But they dont have to pay stumpage so it's kind 50/50.

Just cause it's a burn doesn't mean it drops to two bit stumpage, you can still have positive stumpage.
 

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Off to cut some burnt wood in a few weeks, lightly scorched so it shouldn’t be to dirty or wasteful. Bcts has a burn sale advertised right now with $26 stumpage on it...go figure they must think there full of gold.
$26 ain't bad if that's the upset and bonus bid. Been lots of $100 stumpage on BCTS bids in the South Okanagan/Boundary.
 

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Just stumpage.no logging,trucking, bonus or road.

Yeah obviously no harvest costs in that.

I get the feeling the term stumpage might be getting miss enterprited

BCTS stumpage varies from stumpage on normal licenses. Normal licenses just have 1 rate from the appraisal manual based on a series of factors and it is adjusted quarterly. BCTS has an upset rate from the appraisal manual and then whatever you bid over $0/m3 is added to the upset rate as the bonus bid and paid as stumpage. Say the upset rate is $26/m3 and then you bid $20 on top of that the rate is calculated as $46/m3.
 

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Yeah obviously no harvest costs in that.



BCTS stumpage varies from stumpage on normal licenses. Normal licenses just have 1 rate from the appraisal manual based on a series of factors and it is adjusted quarterly. BCTS has an upset rate from the appraisal manual and then whatever you bid over $0/m3 is added to the upset rate as the bonus bid and paid as stumpage. Say the upset rate is $26/m3 and then you bid $20 on top of that the rate is calculated as $46/m3.

I know well how it works but at $100 for stumpage no one makes money, well maybe the trucks.
 
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