Mike270412
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Saw that when I drove by and thought wtf.
7 million plug-ins on the road by 2025
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Ok so how does the efficiency of the mills fall of so quickly???
Not sure about you but I rarely have to replace any sort of electrical motor from 12 v up to 240 v.
Electric is far more efficient - storage capacity is the issue. Not a big deal for most drivers in the world which likely commute 20 km or less. Better storage is coming slowly but once it's resolved the switch will be thrown!
If the $ that are spent on oil exploration was spent on storage, change would come more quickly.
X-it
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Don't blame me for the stats, I would far rather see a hydo electic dam in BC, they last 100 years. But greenies keep pushing these bird slicers, they never want to cover the downside...so I did. Any time you heavily subsidize something, headed by idiots. You think your going to get what works the best? My vote goes for splitting water. Electricity storage at this time is really unfriendly to the environment.
52weekbreak
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A great thread. Everyone has their points but for better or worse, electric vehicles are coming. We have seen some pretty awesome 0 to 60 MPH speeds but check this out: An EV going 235 Mil Per Hour. Not many cars can go that fast PERIOD.
http://newatlas.com/lucid-motors-ai...ail&utm_term=0_65b67362bd-2bf72ebc1b-92259701
http://newatlas.com/lucid-motors-ai...ail&utm_term=0_65b67362bd-2bf72ebc1b-92259701
X-it
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No doubt electric cars are coming...but. If your buying power from Sask and USA right now, because of lack of common sense and vision. You think adding 7 million plug-ins is going to work when your phasing out your coal fired plants? These cars are going to take a "LOT" of power from the grid. And don't count on site C dam to powering up all these cars, we now have 2 moron's running the show, one is a greenie who is really out to lunch.
eclipse1966
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even Shell CEO is getting onboard with electric cars.
http://bgr.com/2017/07/28/shell-electric-ceo-buying-electric-car/
http://bgr.com/2017/07/28/shell-electric-ceo-buying-electric-car/
X-it
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Level 1 Charging: The slowest form of charging. Uses a plug to connect to the on-board charger and a standard household (120v) outlet. This setup provides between 2 and 5 miles per hour. While this does not sound at all impressive, it can work for those who travel less than 40 miles a day and have all night to charge.
Level 2 Charging: Uses an EVSE to provide power at 220v or 240v and up to 30 amps. Drivers can add 10-25 miles of range in an hour of charging at home or at a public station.
Not too bad if your at that level 2 stations, 10 hrs of charging you can go 100 miles.... unless your 3rd in a line up. And for heaven sakes go sparingly with that heater at 30 bellow
Level 2 Charging: Uses an EVSE to provide power at 220v or 240v and up to 30 amps. Drivers can add 10-25 miles of range in an hour of charging at home or at a public station.
Not too bad if your at that level 2 stations, 10 hrs of charging you can go 100 miles.... unless your 3rd in a line up. And for heaven sakes go sparingly with that heater at 30 bellow
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ABMax24
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Those aren't stats, wind turbines don't "fall off" in efficiency after 2 years, and they last longer than 10 years, and when have you ever seen a helicopter deicing a wind turbine other than on facebook? Splitting water is not efficient either, close to 50% round trip efficiency. The best energy storage is a hydro-electric dam, or pumped water storage.
I don't think there will be a lineup for a charging station as your charging station will be at home, unless you are on a road trip in which the new tesla supercharger can charge a battery from empty to full in 75mins, so basically while you sit in a restaurant and have lunch.
OVERKILL 19
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If I owned a coal fired plant I turn the bugger off right now to save the plant....see what the Drama teacher tards plan is then!
X-it
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Just a study done of 3000 windmills already running that were suppose to last 25 years.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-study-shows-signs-wearing-just-12-years.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-study-shows-signs-wearing-just-12-years.html
ABMax24
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Seems like it was written from a balanced perspective to me:
"His report for the anti-wind farm charity the Renewable Energy Foundation (KEEP), noted: "
Yet we have wind farms built in Alberta in 2000 and 2001 that are still operating, and producing marketable power. Castle River and Cowley Ridge to be specific. If this report is right how is this possible?
X-it
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Don't worry your province is going to be full of them and your going to get first hand how good they are when your paying your electric bills.
Caper11
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Is the tesla a regeneration charging car like the volt?? I think the tech is cool and has its place in the city, just imagine what a trip to edmonton would be like if a person had to wait to charge the battery. I dont think my kids or their kids will see the end of fossil fueled trucks and cars.
The cost of a premium electric car is through the roof. A tesla truck would be outrageous in price. The tesla roof system would cost me 125g to do my house. Simply put we cannot afford the tech.
The cost of a premium electric car is through the roof. A tesla truck would be outrageous in price. The tesla roof system would cost me 125g to do my house. Simply put we cannot afford the tech.
eclipse1966
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we are very lucky to live in a country where our air is relatively clean compared to many countries on this planet. I am sure windmills have their downfalls but so do other energy related sources. There is no reason we cant have the best of both worlds until something better comes. I was in China last Dec and India a year ago. Unless you have been there to experience the air pollution you cannot understand the benefits of non-carbon energy sources would bring. Here is picture in China. Cant imagine living in that day in and day out.
X-it
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How much coal does it take to make one windmill over and over again? It can't be
eclipse1966
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sorry don't quite understand your question. All I know is that we humans hate change even if its for the better. Back when gasoline cars were first being used there was also a huge resistance to them. Look at where we are now. Like every industry they need to walk before they run and yes alternative energy does have its hiccups but in 50-100 years from now it will not be the same. Many have commented on the costs of electric cars, I remember when a flat screen TV came out and they were 10 grand. Now you can buy them less than a thousand bucks. CD players the same, blue -ray, cell phones the list just goes on and on. We have to be patient and welcome new innovations for our future generations. I used to have an office in the UK and there is a huge windmill farm near by. They have been operating for atleast 20 years and I never seen any work being done etc etc. The only complaint the locals have is the noise they make when the wind is strong.
X-it
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I am just pissy our idiots here have shut our dam down , something that is way greener than any windmill ever could be. And they are talking about putting in windmills to replace it. They say it is only for an assessment, ya right. Some interesting reading on Ontarios wind farms. For those who want to know what is coming.
eclipse1966
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yeah I am pissy about them as well LOL. I read yesterday the dam is at 25% stage and now they want to shut it down. Stupid people!!!
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is this what will be needed to replace site C dam? this is the palm springs wind farm, and it is huge and unbelievably ugly and dead birds, bats everywhere 
Thorium based neclear power could be a good way
to go. All kinds of energy sources out there.
if there is a will there is a way.
the driverless revolution will be a much bigger
change than electric or whatever power source
the future ends up going with.
to go. All kinds of energy sources out there.
if there is a will there is a way.
the driverless revolution will be a much bigger
change than electric or whatever power source
the future ends up going with.
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