torsion keys

cey800 · 05-20-2008, 11:31 PM

Anyone tried these torsion keys to gain around 2" of ride hight. Good bad or what ever. Looking to gain a bit of hight, nothing too major. Would be using spacers for the rear coils.

Landrew · 05-21-2008, 03:35 PM

I have tried tightening and loosening my keys (the bolts that push against them actually) and you can go up 2"+ or down 2"+ from stock. Mind you this is on a 4X4 S10 but the torsion keys also apply on other models/brands. The stock keys offer quite a bit of adjustment which is nice as you can dial in your front end to the millimeter.
Maybe try the stock ones all the way in 1st but check the alignment if you decide to stay at anything other than what the vehicle is set at right now as you don't want uneven tire wear.

mb1 · 05-21-2008, 06:05 PM

Keys are a pretty common way to get a little bit of height from the front end. No sense buying different ones unless your stockers are all the way maxed out, and make sure to get an alignment when you're done playing.

ZRrrr · 05-22-2008, 12:43 AM

Will also stiffen the ride quite a bit.

xtremegriz · 05-22-2008, 09:03 AM

I believe the ones you have pictured are a leveling kit, they lift the truck while maintaining the factory ride. I agree with ZRrrr, If you crank up the factory keys, the front end will be stiff.

Slamnek · 05-22-2008, 10:06 AM

i am getting a leveling kit put in my 07 Chev 1/2 ton classic tomorrow along with 285 toyo tires. I will give a report and put up some before and after pics hopfully tomorrow.

xsyourride · 05-22-2008, 01:46 PM

Done lots of these, 2 things are is you do have a bit stiffer ride and you will depending on how high you crank the bars it can bottom out sooner on the upper a arms. I've got mine set at 2.5" on the front and 1"3/4 block on the rear.You also will need a wheel alignment after the install.

ZRrrr · 05-23-2008, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by xtremegriz

I believe the ones you have pictured are a leveling kit, they lift the truck while maintaining the factory ride. I agree with ZRrrr, If you crank up the factory keys, the front end will be stiff.

Back when we were young and broke turning up the torsion bars was a cheap way to get a lift. That and a metal block in the leaf springs out back. Sometimes there was no room left for a proper alignment and you would eat up tires. Bounced down the road real hard. Good point made about bottoming out the front easier, forgot about that one. Also, if my memory serves me right, it seemed to put a lot of stress on the stabilizer bar bushings. Remember having to replace those on occassion.

cey800 · 05-23-2008, 10:11 AM

From what I've been reading, is that by replacing the stock keys with the lager ones you don't have to torque them up as much. Compaired to just cranking up the stock ones.

Slamnek · 05-23-2008, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by cey800

From what I've been reading, is that by replacing the stock keys with the lager ones you don't have to torque them up as much. Compaired to just cranking up the stock ones.

Thats what i was told. Cranking up the stock keys puts the ball joints at an angle and they wear out faster. The bigger keys are supposed to releave some of that pressure. I am getting a BDS set up and was told that you could get 3" out of them but that puts too much pressure on the ball joints.

cey800 · 05-30-2008, 06:34 AM

Decided to go with the aftermarket torsion keys and rear coil spacers after all. It was about a 2-3" increase in ride hight. The old family wagon looks a bit more like a truck. Acouple before and after pics....what do we think..

Summitric · 05-30-2008, 08:32 AM

It Looks Good.... We've Done Lots & Lots Like That.... The Offset Torsion Rod Key Allows For The Same Ride As Before They Are Put In....but With Better Ground Clearance, And Wheel Clearance.

05-21-2008, 03:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
Landrew Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Edmonton Posts: 24 Casino Cash: $55500 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Re: torsion keys I have tried tightening and loosening my keys (the bolts that push against them actually) and you can go up 2"+ or down 2"+ from stock. Mind you this is on a 4X4 S10 but the torsion keys also apply on other models/brands. The stock keys offer quite a bit of adjustment which is nice as you can dial in your front end to the millimeter. Maybe try the stock ones all the way in 1st but check the alignment if you decide to stay at anything other than what the vehicle is set at right now as you don't want uneven tire wear.

05-21-2008, 06:05 PM	#3 (permalink)
mb1 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Edmonton Posts: 209 Casino Cash: $206020 Thanks: 12 Thanked 41 Times in 31 Posts	Re: torsion keys Keys are a pretty common way to get a little bit of height from the front end. No sense buying different ones unless your stockers are all the way maxed out, and make sure to get an alignment when you're done playing.

05-22-2008, 12:43 AM	#4 (permalink)
ZRrrr Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Edmonton Posts: 488 Casino Cash: $209729 Thanks: 56 Thanked 158 Times in 105 Posts	Re: torsion keys Will also stiffen the ride quite a bit.

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xtremegriz Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Red Deer Posts: 246 Casino Cash: $89188 Thanks: 31 Thanked 56 Times in 47 Posts	Re: torsion keys I believe the ones you have pictured are a leveling kit, they lift the truck while maintaining the factory ride. I agree with ZRrrr, If you crank up the factory keys, the front end will be stiff. __________________ 07 700 Grizzly 06 450 Kodiak (girly's ride) 04 800 Summit X 07 MegaCab Dually

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Slamnek Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kitscoty AB Posts: 640 Casino Cash: $290938 Thanks: 192 Thanked 161 Times in 106 Posts	Re: torsion keys i am getting a leveling kit put in my 07 Chev 1/2 ton classic tomorrow along with 285 toyo tires. I will give a report and put up some before and after pics hopfully tomorrow. __________________ 05 Summit 800 Crankshop pipe Team secondary V-Force 3's Simmons ski's 00 CR250 FMF shorty 06 KVF 700 Moose performance chip 26" Mudlites Traxxis Nitro Rustler 2.5 Piped and paddled up

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xsyourride Supporting Vendors Join Date: May 2007 Location: Morinville Posts: 151 Casino Cash: $192871 Thanks: 43 Thanked 51 Times in 36 Posts	Re: torsion keys Done lots of these, 2 things are is you do have a bit stiffer ride and you will depending on how high you crank the bars it can bottom out sooner on the upper a arms. I've got mine set at 2.5" on the front and 1"3/4 block on the rear.You also will need a wheel alignment after the install. __________________ XsYourRides O9 Summit 800 X 163,Cpi pipe 04 Mini Z (little xsyouride) 06 Mini Dragon (littler xsyourride) 05 800 Polaris sportsman 06 32' Wild Cat fithwheel 08 Chev Duramax,lifted ,305/50/20 toyo at,20" Mammath Ultra rims,AFE stage 2 intake ,Custom Billet front end and so much more to come. www.xsyourrides.com Lift kits,Truck Accessories,Diesel & Gas Performance,Custom Rims & Tires Located in Morinville

05-23-2008, 09:34 AM	#8 (permalink)
ZRrrr Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Edmonton Posts: 488 Casino Cash: $209729 Thanks: 56 Thanked 158 Times in 105 Posts	Re: torsion keys Originally Posted by xtremegriz I believe the ones you have pictured are a leveling kit, they lift the truck while maintaining the factory ride. I agree with ZRrrr, If you crank up the factory keys, the front end will be stiff. Back when we were young and broke turning up the torsion bars was a cheap way to get a lift. That and a metal block in the leaf springs out back. Sometimes there was no room left for a proper alignment and you would eat up tires. Bounced down the road real hard. Good point made about bottoming out the front easier, forgot about that one. Also, if my memory serves me right, it seemed to put a lot of stress on the stabilizer bar bushings. Remember having to replace those on occassion.

05-23-2008, 10:11 AM	#9 (permalink)
cey800 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 401 Casino Cash: $61151 Thanks: 52 Thanked 56 Times in 47 Posts	Re: torsion keys From what I've been reading, is that by replacing the stock keys with the lager ones you don't have to torque them up as much. Compaired to just cranking up the stock ones. __________________ All throttle, no bottle. Well maybe......hard to say.

05-23-2008, 10:18 AM	#10 (permalink)
Slamnek Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kitscoty AB Posts: 640 Casino Cash: $290938 Thanks: 192 Thanked 161 Times in 106 Posts	Re: torsion keys Originally Posted by cey800 From what I've been reading, is that by replacing the stock keys with the lager ones you don't have to torque them up as much. Compaired to just cranking up the stock ones. Thats what i was told. Cranking up the stock keys puts the ball joints at an angle and they wear out faster. The bigger keys are supposed to releave some of that pressure. I am getting a BDS set up and was told that you could get 3" out of them but that puts too much pressure on the ball joints. __________________ 05 Summit 800 Crankshop pipe Team secondary V-Force 3's Simmons ski's 00 CR250 FMF shorty 06 KVF 700 Moose performance chip 26" Mudlites Traxxis Nitro Rustler 2.5 Piped and paddled up

05-30-2008, 08:32 AM	#12 (permalink)
Summitric Senor Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edmonton/Sherwood Park Posts: 6,543 Casino Cash: $2259813 Thanks: 2,144 Thanked 1,717 Times in 1,229 Posts	Re: torsion keys It Looks Good.... We've Done Lots & Lots Like That.... The Offset Torsion Rod Key Allows For The Same Ride As Before They Are Put In....but With Better Ground Clearance, And Wheel Clearance. __________________ SUMMITRIC www.sledbunnyracing.com 2006 Summit 1000RT Highmark 162"(THUMPER) 2004 Summit 800X 151"(BLACKWRABBIT) 1999 Summit 670X "Mod" 151"(THUNDERBUNNY)

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