Full synthetic or Half???

Linkz · 10-01-2007, 07:37 PM

Im going to change the oil in my '08 F350 and wish to change to synthetic, now do I go full or half synthetic, what's your choice?

catmando · 10-01-2007, 08:11 PM

My reasoning on that is no synthetic,Diesels usually get a half of million miles with regular oil,Why would you waste your money.
My Two Cents
catmando!

BIGFOOT · 10-01-2007, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by Linkz

Im going to change the oil in my '08 F350 and wish to change to synthetic, now do I go full or half synthetic, what's your choice?

Hey Linkz, If you don't mind two questions first.....What is your reasoning to change to syn oil & what are your thoughts of the three ( Non, blend & full) Synthetic ?

catmando · 10-01-2007, 08:34 PM

Opps,I just assumed it was diesel!
catmando!

Linkz · 10-01-2007, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by BIGFOOT

Hey Linkz, If you don't mind two questions first.....What is your reasoning to change to syn oil & what are your thoughts of the three ( Non, blend & full) Synthetic ?

I have no shelter for my truck so it will be exposed to what winter has to offer as the wifes truck takes the garage and of course the sleds take the other half, also when i go out of town to work sometimes there are no electrical outlets available. My thoughts on the three choices are mixed, conventional oil sucks in cold weather and blend synthetic i know nothing about, i did hear that full synthetic does not hold the sludge as well as conventional so it does not drain out when changing oil (so i hear), which is why a blended mixture was made. And to answer Catmando, it is a diesel.

Garryese · 10-01-2007, 09:55 PM

Full synthetic in everything. I've rebuilt too many engines that didn't have sythetic oil and only three that have. The three all have the same story; punctured cooling system and driven until the engine seals melted out and I drove all three onto the lift after refilling with oil.

Synthetic oil with diesels will help significantly with cold starts.

Summitric · 10-01-2007, 10:51 PM

Before You Begin Switching Oils.... How Many Clicks On Your '08??? You Must Have At Least 15000kms On A Ford 6.6l Before You Consider Switch To Synthetics/blends, Because The Engine Has To Seat The Piston Rings To The Cylinders Properly(broken In, Is The Common Term). A Dodge Should Even Be More, Because The Cylinders Are So Hard. 15w40 Is Good Oil To Break An Engine In(one Of The Best Is Our Own Petro-canada Duron Oil), And Good Synthetic Is 5w40 Synthetic(again One Of The Best Is Petro-canada's Duron Synthetic). I Could Go On Forever On This Topic, But Like Katkantdoadoo Said Above; A Good Diesel With Consistant Good Quality Regular Diesel Oil Will Go 1/2 A Million Miles Before Any Internal Maintenance Is Required. You're Right In 5w40 Synthetic Will Allow Better Cold Starts, And I Am Switching My New Dodge Diesel To 5w40 Duron Synthetic On My Next Oil Change. I Could Send You Books/articles On This If You Really Want, But I Would Stick To Your Original Thought And Either Use Regular 15w40 Or Jump Into The Synthetic(no Need For Blends In A Diesel) If You Have Enough Mileage On Your Truck Already. Just My 30 Years Experience And 2cents Worth......

OVERKILL 19 · 10-01-2007, 11:53 PM

I run AMSOIL in everything. I change my oil once a year depending on how dirty it is but usally its 9 to 12 mounths so in reality its cheaper for me anyways. As far as reg vs Synthetic, ever had a 1950's to 1980's pick-up with a farmer 4sp with a gear drive t-case in -25C. Hard to shift for the first 10-15 miles its so stiff, switch to Synthetic and you will notice the differance. I used to run JD hydro/Synthetic in my 4sd and tcase in my 72chev. Now I use amsoil in everything due to I get it pretty cheap.

teamgreen · 10-02-2007, 12:10 AM

Hey Overkill,
where do you get amsoil at a good price? I only run it in my sled and dirt bike as it is way too expensive to run in my truck

Summitric · 10-02-2007, 12:13 AM

See Ronknight111(big Cheese On This Site).... He's An Amsoil Distributor(i Think He'll Have Some Product At The Sled Show. Pm Him With What You're Looking For!!!

OVERKILL 19 · 10-02-2007, 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by teamgreen

Hey Overkill,
where do you get amsoil at a good price? I only run it in my sled and dirt bike as it is way too expensive to run in my truck

My brother "J-Man" owns a oil service company in Red Deer which he runs Amsoil in everything, he buys it by the barrel. Last year we bought a barrel of DOMINATOR 2 stroke oil, it worked out to about $8/ liter.

rknight111 · 10-02-2007, 08:11 AM

I can get you amsoil at a very reasonable price, You can either look on the amsoil site AMSOIL Corporate Website - Product Information there is alot of info there for you to look through. When you find what you want PM me and I can get you a price. I live in sherwood park so I can meet you.

10-01-2007, 07:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
Linkz Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Calmar,alberta Posts: 280 Casino Cash: $159399 Thanks: 67 Thanked 47 Times in 33 Posts No Classified Ratings	Full synthetic or Half??? Im going to change the oil in my '08 F350 and wish to change to synthetic, now do I go full or half synthetic, what's your choice? __________________ If u can't beat 'em........get something bigger! 2007 Predator 50 2008 M8 Sno Pro (SLP Y-pipe, pipe and stinger, Boondocker control box, V-Force3 reeds, D&D Fire Breather Intake, Vent kit, Simmons skiis, 3.5" Rox Risers, RK TEK Head and Clutch, Boss seat)

10-01-2007, 08:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
catmando Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Edmonton Posts: 3,634 Casino Cash: $1420831 Thanks: 1,165 Thanked 1,206 Times in 710 Posts Classified Rating: 100% (1)	Re: Full synthetic or Half??? My reasoning on that is no synthetic,Diesels usually get a half of million miles with regular oil,Why would you waste your money. My Two Cents catmando! __________________ 05 900 Kingcat 08 110 Giovanni Mini Hummer 06 Arctic Cat M5 05 Kawasaki 650 Brute 96 Polaris Scrambler 400 Arctic Cat in The Snow/Confused in the Mudd Member Of Team Slim

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BIGFOOT Moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Stony Plain Posts: 2,283 Casino Cash: $1258494 Thanks: 1,033 Thanked 724 Times in 506 Posts No Classified Ratings	Re: Full synthetic or Half??? Originally Posted by Linkz Im going to change the oil in my '08 F350 and wish to change to synthetic, now do I go full or half synthetic, what's your choice? *Hey Linkz, If you don't mind two questions first.....What is your reasoning to change to syn oil & what are your thoughts of the three ( Non, blend & full) Synthetic ?* __________________ *RMK* *MIKE* *900/166* "*BIG-FOOT*"

10-01-2007, 08:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
catmando Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Edmonton Posts: 3,634 Casino Cash: $1420831 Thanks: 1,165 Thanked 1,206 Times in 710 Posts Classified Rating: 100% (1)	Re: Full synthetic or Half??? Opps,I just assumed it was diesel! catmando! __________________ 05 900 Kingcat 08 110 Giovanni Mini Hummer 06 Arctic Cat M5 05 Kawasaki 650 Brute 96 Polaris Scrambler 400 Arctic Cat in The Snow/Confused in the Mudd Member Of Team Slim

10-01-2007, 09:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
Linkz Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Calmar,alberta Posts: 280 Casino Cash: $159399 Thanks: 67 Thanked 47 Times in 33 Posts No Classified Ratings	Re: Full synthetic or Half??? Originally Posted by BIGFOOT *Hey Linkz, If you don't mind two questions first.....What is your reasoning to change to syn oil & what are your thoughts of the three ( Non, blend & full) Synthetic ?* I have no shelter for my truck so it will be exposed to what winter has to offer as the wifes truck takes the garage and of course the sleds take the other half, also when i go out of town to work sometimes there are no electrical outlets available. My thoughts on the three choices are mixed, conventional oil sucks in cold weather and blend synthetic i know nothing about, i did hear that full synthetic does not hold the sludge as well as conventional so it does not drain out when changing oil (so i hear), which is why a blended mixture was made. And to answer Catmando, it is a diesel. __________________ If u can't beat 'em........get something bigger! 2007 Predator 50 2008 M8 Sno Pro (SLP Y-pipe, pipe and stinger, Boondocker control box, V-Force3 reeds, D&D Fire Breather Intake, Vent kit, Simmons skiis, 3.5" Rox Risers, RK TEK Head and Clutch, Boss seat)

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10-01-2007, 09:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
Garryese Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Edson, Alberta Posts: 522 Casino Cash: $533175 Thanks: 61 Thanked 207 Times in 142 Posts No Classified Ratings	Re: Full synthetic or Half??? Full synthetic in everything. I've rebuilt too many engines that didn't have sythetic oil and only three that have. The three all have the same story; punctured cooling system and driven until the engine seals melted out and I drove all three onto the lift after refilling with oil. Synthetic oil with diesels will help significantly with cold starts. __________________ Garry Past President Edson ATV Club Aging is inevitable... growing up is optional 07 Scrambler: Aaen Stage III, Trail Tech Vapor, Bear Claws, Clutch tuning. NOS to come 07 Scrambler: Bear claws, Trail Tech Endurance, Clutch tuning. 98 Sportsman: 20,000 miles when the speedo quit in '05 08 F350 SD CC LWB 6.4l

10-01-2007, 10:51 PM	#7 (permalink)
Summitric Senor Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edmonton/Sherwood Park Posts: 13,567 Casino Cash: $131820 Thanks: 5,691 Thanked 5,400 Times in 3,004 Posts Classified Rating: 100% (2)	Re: Full synthetic or Half??? Before You Begin Switching Oils.... How Many Clicks On Your '08??? You Must Have At Least 15000kms On A Ford 6.6l Before You Consider Switch To Synthetics/blends, Because The Engine Has To Seat The Piston Rings To The Cylinders Properly(broken In, Is The Common Term). A Dodge Should Even Be More, Because The Cylinders Are So Hard. 15w40 Is Good Oil To Break An Engine In(one Of The Best Is Our Own Petro-canada Duron Oil), And Good Synthetic Is 5w40 Synthetic(again One Of The Best Is Petro-canada's Duron Synthetic). I Could Go On Forever On This Topic, But Like Katkantdoadoo Said Above; A Good Diesel With Consistant Good Quality Regular Diesel Oil Will Go 1/2 A Million Miles Before Any Internal Maintenance Is Required. You're Right In 5w40 Synthetic Will Allow Better Cold Starts, And I Am Switching My New Dodge Diesel To 5w40 Duron Synthetic On My Next Oil Change. I Could Send You Books/articles On This If You Really Want, But I Would Stick To Your Original Thought And Either Use Regular 15w40 Or Jump Into The Synthetic(no Need For Blends In A Diesel) If You Have Enough Mileage On Your Truck Already. Just My 30 Years Experience And 2cents Worth...... __________________ SUMMITRIC www.sledbunnyracing.com 2006 Summit 1000RT Highmark 162"(THUMPER) 2004 Summit 800X 151"(BLACKWRABBIT) 2000 POLARIS 500 SPORTSMAN 1998 Yamaha 600 Grizzly Member of Team Slim ALBERT BECK - HIGHMARKING IN THE HEAVENS - REST IN PEACE

10-01-2007, 11:53 PM	#8 (permalink)
OVERKILL 19 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Red Deer Posts: 970 Casino Cash: $853669 Thanks: 225 Thanked 294 Times in 213 Posts No Classified Ratings	Re: Full synthetic or Half??? I run AMSOIL in everything. I change my oil once a year depending on how dirty it is but usally its 9 to 12 mounths so in reality its cheaper for me anyways. As far as reg vs Synthetic, ever had a 1950's to 1980's pick-up with a farmer 4sp with a gear drive t-case in -25C. Hard to shift for the first 10-15 miles its so stiff, switch to Synthetic and you will notice the differance. I used to run JD hydro/Synthetic in my 4sd and tcase in my 72chev. Now I use amsoil in everything due to I get it pretty cheap. __________________ Equal rights for everyone...special treatment for no one !!!

10-02-2007, 12:10 AM	#9 (permalink)
teamgreen Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brandon MB Posts: 242 Casino Cash: $270509 Thanks: 19 Thanked 50 Times in 29 Posts No Classified Ratings	Re: Full synthetic or Half??? Hey Overkill, where do you get amsoil at a good price? I only run it in my sled and dirt bike as it is way too expensive to run in my truck __________________ Team Green Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene.'

10-02-2007, 12:13 AM	#10 (permalink)
Summitric Senor Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edmonton/Sherwood Park Posts: 13,567 Casino Cash: $131820 Thanks: 5,691 Thanked 5,400 Times in 3,004 Posts Classified Rating: 100% (2)	Re: Full synthetic or Half??? See Ronknight111(big Cheese On This Site).... He's An Amsoil Distributor(i Think He'll Have Some Product At The Sled Show. Pm Him With What You're Looking For!!! __________________ SUMMITRIC www.sledbunnyracing.com 2006 Summit 1000RT Highmark 162"(THUMPER) 2004 Summit 800X 151"(BLACKWRABBIT) 2000 POLARIS 500 SPORTSMAN 1998 Yamaha 600 Grizzly Member of Team Slim ALBERT BECK - HIGHMARKING IN THE HEAVENS - REST IN PEACE

10-02-2007, 12:23 AM	#11 (permalink)
OVERKILL 19 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Red Deer Posts: 970 Casino Cash: $853669 Thanks: 225 Thanked 294 Times in 213 Posts No Classified Ratings	Re: Full synthetic or Half??? Originally Posted by teamgreen Hey Overkill, where do you get amsoil at a good price? I only run it in my sled and dirt bike as it is way too expensive to run in my truck My brother "J-Man" owns a oil service company in Red Deer which he runs Amsoil in everything, he buys it by the barrel. Last year we bought a barrel of DOMINATOR 2 stroke oil, it worked out to about $8/ liter. __________________ Equal rights for everyone...special treatment for no one !!!

10-02-2007, 08:11 AM	#12 (permalink)
rknight111 Administrator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 3,575 Casino Cash: $590197 Thanks: 263 Thanked 2,684 Times in 1,040 Posts No Classified Ratings	Re: Full synthetic or Half??? I can get you amsoil at a very reasonable price, You can either look on the amsoil site AMSOIL Corporate Website - Product Information there is alot of info there for you to look through. When you find what you want PM me and I can get you a price. I live in sherwood park so I can meet you. __________________ Ron 2008 Turbo Nytro 162, Stage 3, Time to get it ready for the season 2007 Slightly Beat CanAm Renegade 800 ATV

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