White smoke out my exhaust

schickdecision · 05-21-2009, 06:41 PM

I recently had my 750 Brute force stall out on me while playing in some mud puddles by my house. I couldn't get it started until I had it boosted back at the truck. I changed the oil and ran it through 2 cycles of new oil before I changed the filter and put the new synthetic oil in. Now, it starts no problem and runs good with no sputter and no creamy color to the oil. What worries me is when I rev the engine up, the exhaust becomes a thick white color and smells like burning oil. Should I be worried that I blew a head gasket or is it just condensation in the pistons that will eventually go away?

pipes · 05-21-2009, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by schickdecision

I recently had my 750 Brute force stall out on me while playing in some mud puddles by my house. I couldn't get it started until I had it boosted back at the truck. I changed the oil and ran it through 2 cycles of new oil before I changed the filter and put the new synthetic oil in. Now, it starts no problem and runs good with no sputter and no creamy color to the oil. What worries me is when I rev the engine up, the exhaust becomes a thick white color and smells like burning oil. Should I be worried that I blew a head gasket or is it just condensation in the pistons that will eventually go away?

that cann't be a good thing.

Summiteer · 05-21-2009, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by pipes

that cann't be a good thing.

isn't white smoke indicative of water or coolant?

pipes · 05-21-2009, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by Summiteer

isn't white smoke indicative of water or coolant?

yup.....................

Summiteer · 05-21-2009, 07:16 PM

Is it likely that coolant is getting into the combustion chamber without contaminating the oil? head gasket or cracked head? last time I saw that was on a stock car engine that had run for about 3 minutes then sounded like a wad of barbed wire was run through it......didn't work so good after that...

pipes · 05-21-2009, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by Summiteer

Is it likely that coolant is getting into the combustion chamber without contaminating the oil? head gasket or cracked head? last time I saw that was on a stock car engine that had run for about 3 minutes then sounded like a wad of barbed wire was run through it......didn't work so good after that...

could be either. a head gasket would be my first guess.

schickdecision · 05-21-2009, 07:45 PM

I heard that if it was coolant, it would give off a sweet smell. Right now it smells like burnt oil. I think I am going to take it into the dealer but if I could fix it myself with not too much time and effort, I would.

sumx54 · 05-21-2009, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by schickdecision

I recently had my 750 Brute force stall out on me while playing in some mud puddles by my house. I couldn't get it started until I had it boosted back at the truck. I changed the oil and ran it through 2 cycles of new oil before I changed the filter and put the new synthetic oil in. Now, it starts no problem and runs good with no sputter and no creamy color to the oil. What worries me is when I rev the engine up, the exhaust becomes a thick white color and smells like burning oil. Should I be worried that I blew a head gasket or is it just condensation in the pistons that will eventually go away?

How long have you run it while it smokes? lots of times when its the head gasket or a cracked head you will see lots of exess pressure in the water system when its still cold. I'm not proud of the fact by any means but I have quite a bit of experience with drowning quads. I find that if you don't properly drain the exhaust you'll see quite a bit of white smoke for awhile when the engine reaches temp. Did you check the air box or filter for wet? Another thing that I do after a drowning is disconnect the crank case breather hose from the intake for a good while. Any water thats left in the crank case will steam off and you don't want the steam in the airbox. Good Luck

schickdecision · 05-21-2009, 07:57 PM

I didn't try to drain the exhaust or the crank case but I will give it a try. I hoped that it would just stop steaming but I don't want to take the chance of riding it into the bush and have to be pulled out again. The only other way I guest I could tell is to run it for a while and check the coolant tank to see if it is dropping. It doesn't smoke until I rev it up and that seems weird to me. Thanks for your help!

pipes · 05-21-2009, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by schickdecision

I didn't try to drain the exhaust or the crank case but I will give it a try. I hoped that it would just stop steaming but I don't want to take the chance of riding it into the bush and have to be pulled out again. The only other way I guest I could tell is to run it for a while and check the coolant tank to see if it is dropping. It doesn't smoke until I rev it up and that seems weird to me. Thanks for your help!

more info, now its comin' out. Like summiteer said if you had a blown head gasket or craked head your cooling system would pressure up. Good one summiteer. yeah check your intake for water. and yeah you should've pulled your exhaust and drained it.

schickdecision · 05-21-2009, 08:20 PM

As if you didn't figure it out by now, this is a first for me. So is there a drain plug on the exhaust or do i have to take it totally off? The best bet is for me to find a shop manual I guess.

pipes · 05-21-2009, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by schickdecision

As if you didn't figure it out by now, this is a first for me. So is there a drain plug on the exhaust or do i have to take it totally off? The best bet is for me to find a shop manual I guess.

that would be a good start. I don't think that there is a drain on the exhaust so you guessed it, off it comes

schickdecision · 05-21-2009, 08:26 PM

Thanks for all your help guys. I'd rather screw around with it myself before I spend an arm and a leg at the dealer.

sumx54 · 05-21-2009, 09:23 PM

A good way to drain the exhaust is to stand it up on its rear end. This is the first thing you want to do before pulling the spark plug and turning over the engine after a swamping.

PS I'll let Summiteer take any credit where credit ain't do. He needs it. LMFAO!!!

I'll try and post a vid of the white smoke show after an attempted beaver dam crossing by a Grizzly..lol

Black08Brute · 05-21-2009, 09:47 PM

I have a service manuel as a PDF of my computer I could try and e-mail it if you wanted.

schickdecision · 05-22-2009, 09:25 AM

That would be great if you could email me that manual!

05-21-2009, 06:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
schickdecision Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Fort McMurray, AB Posts: 38 Casino Cash: $68513 Thanks: 16 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	White smoke out my exhaust I recently had my 750 Brute force stall out on me while playing in some mud puddles by my house. I couldn't get it started until I had it boosted back at the truck. I changed the oil and ran it through 2 cycles of new oil before I changed the filter and put the new synthetic oil in. Now, it starts no problem and runs good with no sputter and no creamy color to the oil. What worries me is when I rev the engine up, the exhaust becomes a thick white color and smells like burning oil. Should I be worried that I blew a head gasket or is it just condensation in the pistons that will eventually go away?

05-21-2009, 06:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
pipes Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bonnyville Alberta Posts: 5,501 Casino Cash: $3678059 Thanks: 676 Thanked 4,120 Times in 2,630 Posts	Re: White smoke out my exhaust Originally Posted by schickdecision I recently had my 750 Brute force stall out on me while playing in some mud puddles by my house. I couldn't get it started until I had it boosted back at the truck. I changed the oil and ran it through 2 cycles of new oil before I changed the filter and put the new synthetic oil in. Now, it starts no problem and runs good with no sputter and no creamy color to the oil. What worries me is when I rev the engine up, the exhaust becomes a thick white color and smells like burning oil. Should I be worried that I blew a head gasket or is it just condensation in the pistons that will eventually go away? that cann't be a good thing. __________________ Our Father, who art on mountain Himark be thy name may snowfall come on mountain peeks and lower valleys give us this day blue bird skies and show us the way to abundant powder and lead us not into avalanche conditions but deliver us to eternal powder for thine is the powder the slope and the glory for ever and ever HIMARK __________________

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Summiteer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Whitecourt, Ab Posts: 2,737 Casino Cash: $228240 Thanks: 166 Thanked 1,360 Times in 817 Posts	Re: White smoke out my exhaust Originally Posted by pipes that cann't be a good thing. isn't white smoke indicative of water or coolant? __________________ Regards, mitch '06 800 Summit '05 400 Outlander http://www.whitecourttrailblazers.ca

05-21-2009, 07:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
pipes Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bonnyville Alberta Posts: 5,501 Casino Cash: $3678059 Thanks: 676 Thanked 4,120 Times in 2,630 Posts	Re: White smoke out my exhaust Originally Posted by Summiteer isn't white smoke indicative of water or coolant? yup..................... __________________ Our Father, who art on mountain Himark be thy name may snowfall come on mountain peeks and lower valleys give us this day blue bird skies and show us the way to abundant powder and lead us not into avalanche conditions but deliver us to eternal powder for thine is the powder the slope and the glory for ever and ever HIMARK __________________

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Summiteer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Whitecourt, Ab Posts: 2,737 Casino Cash: $228240 Thanks: 166 Thanked 1,360 Times in 817 Posts	Re: White smoke out my exhaust Is it likely that coolant is getting into the combustion chamber without contaminating the oil? head gasket or cracked head? last time I saw that was on a stock car engine that had run for about 3 minutes then sounded like a wad of barbed wire was run through it......didn't work so good after that... __________________ Regards, mitch '06 800 Summit '05 400 Outlander http://www.whitecourttrailblazers.ca

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05-21-2009, 07:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
pipes Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bonnyville Alberta Posts: 5,501 Casino Cash: $3678059 Thanks: 676 Thanked 4,120 Times in 2,630 Posts	Re: White smoke out my exhaust Originally Posted by Summiteer Is it likely that coolant is getting into the combustion chamber without contaminating the oil? head gasket or cracked head? last time I saw that was on a stock car engine that had run for about 3 minutes then sounded like a wad of barbed wire was run through it......didn't work so good after that... could be either. a head gasket would be my first guess. __________________ Our Father, who art on mountain Himark be thy name may snowfall come on mountain peeks and lower valleys give us this day blue bird skies and show us the way to abundant powder and lead us not into avalanche conditions but deliver us to eternal powder for thine is the powder the slope and the glory for ever and ever HIMARK __________________

05-21-2009, 07:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
schickdecision Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Fort McMurray, AB Posts: 38 Casino Cash: $68513 Thanks: 16 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	Re: White smoke out my exhaust I heard that if it was coolant, it would give off a sweet smell. Right now it smells like burnt oil. I think I am going to take it into the dealer but if I could fix it myself with not too much time and effort, I would.

05-21-2009, 07:49 PM	#8 (permalink)
sumx54 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Central Alberta Posts: 2,626 Casino Cash: $2115050 Thanks: 1,084 Thanked 1,336 Times in 806 Posts	Re: White smoke out my exhaust Originally Posted by schickdecision I recently had my 750 Brute force stall out on me while playing in some mud puddles by my house. I couldn't get it started until I had it boosted back at the truck. I changed the oil and ran it through 2 cycles of new oil before I changed the filter and put the new synthetic oil in. Now, it starts no problem and runs good with no sputter and no creamy color to the oil. What worries me is when I rev the engine up, the exhaust becomes a thick white color and smells like burning oil. Should I be worried that I blew a head gasket or is it just condensation in the pistons that will eventually go away? How long have you run it while it smokes? lots of times when its the head gasket or a cracked head you will see lots of exess pressure in the water system when its still cold. I'm not proud of the fact by any means but I have quite a bit of experience with drowning quads. I find that if you don't properly drain the exhaust you'll see quite a bit of white smoke for awhile when the engine reaches temp. Did you check the air box or filter for wet? Another thing that I do after a drowning is disconnect the crank case breather hose from the intake for a good while. Any water thats left in the crank case will steam off and you don't want the steam in the airbox. Good Luck __________________ http://www.AbsoluteAdventure.ca ATV Rentals and Guiding Services 08 Can-Am 800 (not stock) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U52TPkKTDs

05-21-2009, 07:57 PM	#9 (permalink)
schickdecision Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Fort McMurray, AB Posts: 38 Casino Cash: $68513 Thanks: 16 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	Re: White smoke out my exhaust I didn't try to drain the exhaust or the crank case but I will give it a try. I hoped that it would just stop steaming but I don't want to take the chance of riding it into the bush and have to be pulled out again. The only other way I guest I could tell is to run it for a while and check the coolant tank to see if it is dropping. It doesn't smoke until I rev it up and that seems weird to me. Thanks for your help!

05-21-2009, 08:05 PM	#10 (permalink)
pipes Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bonnyville Alberta Posts: 5,501 Casino Cash: $3678059 Thanks: 676 Thanked 4,120 Times in 2,630 Posts	Re: White smoke out my exhaust Originally Posted by schickdecision I didn't try to drain the exhaust or the crank case but I will give it a try. I hoped that it would just stop steaming but I don't want to take the chance of riding it into the bush and have to be pulled out again. The only other way I guest I could tell is to run it for a while and check the coolant tank to see if it is dropping. It doesn't smoke until I rev it up and that seems weird to me. Thanks for your help! more info, now its comin' out. Like summiteer said if you had a blown head gasket or craked head your cooling system would pressure up. Good one summiteer. yeah check your intake for water. and yeah you should've pulled your exhaust and drained it. __________________ Our Father, who art on mountain Himark be thy name may snowfall come on mountain peeks and lower valleys give us this day blue bird skies and show us the way to abundant powder and lead us not into avalanche conditions but deliver us to eternal powder for thine is the powder the slope and the glory for ever and ever HIMARK __________________

05-21-2009, 08:20 PM	#11 (permalink)
schickdecision Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Fort McMurray, AB Posts: 38 Casino Cash: $68513 Thanks: 16 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	Re: White smoke out my exhaust As if you didn't figure it out by now, this is a first for me. So is there a drain plug on the exhaust or do i have to take it totally off? The best bet is for me to find a shop manual I guess.

05-21-2009, 08:23 PM	#12 (permalink)
pipes Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bonnyville Alberta Posts: 5,501 Casino Cash: $3678059 Thanks: 676 Thanked 4,120 Times in 2,630 Posts	Re: White smoke out my exhaust Originally Posted by schickdecision As if you didn't figure it out by now, this is a first for me. So is there a drain plug on the exhaust or do i have to take it totally off? The best bet is for me to find a shop manual I guess. that would be a good start. I don't think that there is a drain on the exhaust so you guessed it, off it comes __________________ Our Father, who art on mountain Himark be thy name may snowfall come on mountain peeks and lower valleys give us this day blue bird skies and show us the way to abundant powder and lead us not into avalanche conditions but deliver us to eternal powder for thine is the powder the slope and the glory for ever and ever HIMARK __________________

05-21-2009, 08:26 PM	#13 (permalink)
schickdecision Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Fort McMurray, AB Posts: 38 Casino Cash: $68513 Thanks: 16 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	Re: White smoke out my exhaust Thanks for all your help guys. I'd rather screw around with it myself before I spend an arm and a leg at the dealer.

05-21-2009, 09:23 PM	#14 (permalink)
sumx54 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Central Alberta Posts: 2,626 Casino Cash: $2115050 Thanks: 1,084 Thanked 1,336 Times in 806 Posts	Re: White smoke out my exhaust A good way to drain the exhaust is to stand it up on its rear end. This is the first thing you want to do before pulling the spark plug and turning over the engine after a swamping. PS I'll let Summiteer take any credit where credit ain't do. He needs it. LMFAO!!! I'll try and post a vid of the white smoke show after an attempted beaver dam crossing by a Grizzly..lol __________________ http://www.AbsoluteAdventure.ca ATV Rentals and Guiding Services 08 Can-Am 800 (not stock) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U52TPkKTDs

05-21-2009, 09:47 PM	#15 (permalink)
Black08Brute Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Barrhead Posts: 80 Casino Cash: $210200 Thanks: 38 Thanked 30 Times in 15 Posts	Re: White smoke out my exhaust I have a service manuel as a PDF of my computer I could try and e-mail it if you wanted. __________________ 2003 Vertical Escape. 2001 TRX 450 Mud Bugs old faithfull 2008 Brute force 750 EFI Mud bugs and other stuff

05-22-2009, 09:25 AM	#16 (permalink)
schickdecision Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Fort McMurray, AB Posts: 38 Casino Cash: $68513 Thanks: 16 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	Re: White smoke out my exhaust That would be great if you could email me that manual!

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