Switching to synthetic in older quad

pipeliner · 10-15-2009, 08:41 AM

Have a older 1991 Yamaha Moto4 250 that I have been using reg 10-40 oil in it. Now with a newer Sportsman the Yamaha will get maybe 200kms a year. Thinking of putting synthetic in as I probably won't be changing the oil to often and it does get the occasional winter ride. Question is would there be any reason not to put synthetic in or anything to be careful about with oil types (Motorcycle vs automotive oil)? Quad has never had any issues and doesn't burn oil at all.

Andy the Digger · 10-18-2009, 05:43 AM

I always heard synthetic oils were hard on clutch plates.. more slippage???

AreWeThereYet · 10-18-2009, 09:38 PM

The moto 4 is a manual so no clutch plates. Depending on how many miles you have on it,. with synthetic it will clean up the engine a bit and you might end up with top end oil burning.

Andy the Digger · 10-29-2009, 02:24 AM

Originally Posted by AreWeThereYet

The moto 4 is a manual so no clutch plates. Depending on how many miles you have on it,. with synthetic it will clean up the engine a bit and you might end up with top end oil burning.

munhoez · 10-29-2009, 03:01 PM

To answere the question, use atv syn oil, the syn atv oils r always JASO approved. Thats the classification ur looking for.
Ipone,Motul,Amsoil r sum good names

munhoez · 10-29-2009, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by AreWeThereYet

The moto 4 is a manual so no clutch plates. Depending on how many miles you have on it,. with synthetic it will clean up the engine a bit and you might end up with top end oil burning.

I think what u mean is "there's no pri and sec"
Think about a 5speed car, is there a clutch plate? What about a 5 speed quad? Or MX bike.?

AreWeThereYet · 10-30-2009, 07:04 PM

My bad I should have stated POWERSPORTS synthetic as it is clutch compatible, non energy conserving and JASO certified.

munhoez · 11-02-2009, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by AreWeThereYet

My bad I should have stated POWERSPORTS synthetic as it is clutch compatible, non energy conserving and JASO certified.

UR ok.

:b eer:

kenvb · 11-05-2009, 08:46 AM

DO Not use Automotive Synthetic Oil , they have a additive that will make the clutch slip.

and the Moto-4 is a Manual Shift Automatic.... it does have discs. I have had 10 of those in last 20 yrs.Great quads.but the newer Kodiaks & Grizzleys are better.Those we can use Automotive oils in !

munhoez · 11-06-2009, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by kenvb

DO Not use Automotive Synthetic Oil , they have a additive that will make the clutch slip.

and the Moto-4 is a Manual Shift Automatic.... it does have discs. I have had 10 of those in last 20 yrs.Great quads.but the newer Kodiaks & Grizzleys are better.Those we can use Automotive oils in !

What about the cetrifugal in grizz', still has clutch material that may be softened or eaten by automotive eng oil.
You wouldnt put rotella t 15w40 in ur car would ya and vice versa.
Stick to the oils that r engineered for the atv application. That is ur safest bet.

10-15-2009, 08:41 AM	#1 (permalink)
pipeliner Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sherwood Park Posts: 2 Casino Cash: $52400 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts No Classified Ratings	Switching to synthetic in older quad Have a older 1991 Yamaha Moto4 250 that I have been using reg 10-40 oil in it. Now with a newer Sportsman the Yamaha will get maybe 200kms a year. Thinking of putting synthetic in as I probably won't be changing the oil to often and it does get the occasional winter ride. Question is would there be any reason not to put synthetic in or anything to be careful about with oil types (Motorcycle vs automotive oil)? Quad has never had any issues and doesn't burn oil at all.

10-18-2009, 05:43 AM	#2 (permalink)
Andy the Digger Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Northwest AB Posts: 29 Casino Cash: $62500 Thanks: 9 Thanked 11 Times in 7 Posts No Classified Ratings	Re: Switching to synthetic in older quad I always heard synthetic oils were hard on clutch plates.. more slippage???

10-18-2009, 09:38 PM	#3 (permalink)
AreWeThereYet Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Grande Prairie Posts: 402 Casino Cash: $252960 Thanks: 25 Thanked 89 Times in 71 Posts No Classified Ratings	Re: Switching to synthetic in older quad The moto 4 is a manual so no clutch plates. Depending on how many miles you have on it,. with synthetic it will clean up the engine a bit and you might end up with top end oil burning. __________________ 07 660 Rhino Save a horse, ride a cowboy.

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Andy the Digger Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Northwest AB Posts: 29 Casino Cash: $62500 Thanks: 9 Thanked 11 Times in 7 Posts No Classified Ratings	Re: Switching to synthetic in older quad Originally Posted by AreWeThereYet The moto 4 is a manual so no clutch plates. Depending on how many miles you have on it,. with synthetic it will clean up the engine a bit and you might end up with top end oil burning. No clutch plates???? Must be hard to stop when its running then.. having to always shut it off...... LOL... Babbitts Sports Center \| Arctic Cat OEM Parts \| Can-Am (Bombardier) OEM Parts \| Honda OEM Parts \| Kawasaki OEM Parts \| Polaris OEM Parts \| Sea-Doo OEM Parts \| Ski-Doo OEM Parts \| Suzuki OEM Parts \| Yamaha OEM Parts

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munhoez Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: In a Dakota R/T, down by the South Sask. River Posts: 287 Casino Cash: $206340 Thanks: 11 Thanked 104 Times in 69 Posts No Classified Ratings	Re: Switching to synthetic in older quad To answere the question, use atv syn oil, the syn atv oils r always JASO approved. Thats the classification ur looking for. Ipone,Motul,Amsoil r sum good names __________________ " Sorry officer, someone must have put some Alcohol in ma Beer"

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10-29-2009, 03:05 PM	#6 (permalink)
munhoez Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: In a Dakota R/T, down by the South Sask. River Posts: 287 Casino Cash: $206340 Thanks: 11 Thanked 104 Times in 69 Posts No Classified Ratings	Re: Switching to synthetic in older quad Originally Posted by AreWeThereYet The moto 4 is a manual so no clutch plates. Depending on how many miles you have on it,. with synthetic it will clean up the engine a bit and you might end up with top end oil burning. I think what u mean is "there's no pri and sec" Think about a 5speed car, is there a clutch plate? What about a 5 speed quad? Or MX bike.? __________________ " Sorry officer, someone must have put some Alcohol in ma Beer"

10-30-2009, 07:04 PM	#7 (permalink)
AreWeThereYet Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Grande Prairie Posts: 402 Casino Cash: $252960 Thanks: 25 Thanked 89 Times in 71 Posts No Classified Ratings	Re: Switching to synthetic in older quad My bad I should have stated POWERSPORTS synthetic as it is clutch compatible, non energy conserving and JASO certified. __________________ 07 660 Rhino Save a horse, ride a cowboy.

11-02-2009, 12:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
munhoez Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: In a Dakota R/T, down by the South Sask. River Posts: 287 Casino Cash: $206340 Thanks: 11 Thanked 104 Times in 69 Posts No Classified Ratings	Re: Switching to synthetic in older quad Originally Posted by AreWeThereYet My bad I should have stated POWERSPORTS synthetic as it is clutch compatible, non energy conserving and JASO certified. UR ok. :b eer: __________________ " Sorry officer, someone must have put some Alcohol in ma Beer"

11-05-2009, 08:46 AM	#9 (permalink)
kenvb Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Gardenview Alberta Posts: 81 Casino Cash: $162284 Thanks: 4 Thanked 43 Times in 15 Posts No Classified Ratings	Re: Switching to synthetic in older quad DO Not use Automotive Synthetic Oil , they have a additive that will make the clutch slip. and the Moto-4 is a Manual Shift Automatic.... it does have discs. I have had 10 of those in last 20 yrs.Great quads.but the newer Kodiaks & Grizzleys are better.Those we can use Automotive oils in ! __________________ 03 Polaris 800 VE 03 Yamy 450 Kodiak 05 Yamy 450 Kodiak 96 1500 wNew Side Car is For sale $11,000 Last edited by kenvb; 11-05-2009 at 08:47 AM.. Reason: spooling Mistake

11-06-2009, 10:22 AM	#10 (permalink)
munhoez Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: In a Dakota R/T, down by the South Sask. River Posts: 287 Casino Cash: $206340 Thanks: 11 Thanked 104 Times in 69 Posts No Classified Ratings	Re: Switching to synthetic in older quad Originally Posted by kenvb DO Not use Automotive Synthetic Oil , they have a additive that will make the clutch slip. and the Moto-4 is a Manual Shift Automatic.... it does have discs. I have had 10 of those in last 20 yrs.Great quads.but the newer Kodiaks & Grizzleys are better.Those we can use Automotive oils in ! What about the cetrifugal in grizz', still has clutch material that may be softened or eaten by automotive eng oil. You wouldnt put rotella t 15w40 in ur car would ya and vice versa. Stick to the oils that r engineered for the atv application. That is ur safest bet. __________________ " Sorry officer, someone must have put some Alcohol in ma Beer"

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