H1 N1 Vaccinations

[psycoticmudder]

been sick with flu for 5weeks before vaccine was offered. no test here to tell if it was h1n1 our hospital is treating all people at emerge as if it is. constant line of people. I'm feeling better each day pumping vitamin and hole garlic. to late for shot now

[Cyle]

Originally Posted by CR500R

You think....

world population today -----6.795 billion
world H1N1 deaths today ------- 6,255

"Only mild symptoms are experienced by the overwhelming majority of victims,[7] but there are exceptions. Some persons are in higher risk groups, such as those with asthma, diabetes,[8] obesity, heart disease, children with neurodevelopmental conditions,[9] or persons who are pregnant or have a weakened immune system.[10] There are small subsets of patients, even among young persons previously healthy, who rapidly develop severe pneumonia, typically 3 to 5 days after initial onset of symptoms. Deterioration can be very rapid, with many patients progressing to respiratory failure within 24 hours, requiring intensive care and ventilation support.[11]"
quoted from wikpedia.

Yea if you put the numbers into perspective it's not that bad. The sad part is how the media can take a small issue and make it huge, and take a huge issue and make it seem small.

Can't say i'm to worried about it.

[fargineyesore]

Originally Posted by Alberta Boy

No problem... it wasn't meant to be disrespectful although his choice of prevention it questionable at best... in your last post, I think that you were alluding to the fact that people can get rest, get exercise, wash their hands etc. to contain the spread... if you are solely relying on take INSANELY high doses of Vitamin D to fend of a virus based on some unproven theory... good luck!

And you are right Mike... sledbunny is old and there is a crazy amount of media around this. Nice to get a chuckle in this post!

My only passing comment is... prevent as you will, decide as you will but what ever you do, do the research and base your decisions on credible FACT based information... which should be based on clinical studies which are placebo controlled and randomized trials... after all, this is what the medical community does... EVIDENCE based medicine and not... oh I heard once that ____ worked with our friend's neighbour...

Now... good luck with your decisions!

Don't believe everything you hear from the medical community either. If they are so knowledgeable and pure of intent, why are their cancer treatment therapies such a joke? Why is it that there are such terrible side effects from the drugs they give for mental illness? It isn't heresay, my nephew has mental problems and has bad side effects from the drugs they give out. I've known several people with cancer that trusted the "medical experts" and took the standard therapies. They all died very soon after. I've also known people that used alternative treatments, and they are still alive. The medical experts have made blunders, and will religiously persecute anyone that has a viewpoint that is not the same as theirs, as they are all one big happy family. I will listen to the doctors, but I take what they say with a huge grain of salt, as I've seen many I wouldn't take my dog to. You can ridicule me if you like, but at least I am confident in the knowledge that I can think for myself.

[H2SNOW]

...and until you actualy have children you will never have any reasonable input, theories, and all else is simply "blah blah blah"

I have four kids oldest 13 youngest 2 ........whats in your house ??

I spend countless hours researching autism and the effects of Immunisations in fact I have over 20 hours this week alone more than 100 hours in the last 3 weeks

while you are busy at your job and impressing the chicks well I am busy filling the Shots full of holes no pun intended .




PS we are against all vaccinations ! period

[QMAO]

Here is a good reason Not to get the H1N1 vaccine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGT0r...eature=related

[nursepwdr]

Originally Posted by fargineyesore

Don't believe everything you hear from the medical community either. If they are so knowledgeable and pure of intent, why are their cancer treatment therapies such a joke? Why is it that there are such terrible side effects from the drugs they give for mental illness? It isn't heresay, my nephew has mental problems and has bad side effects from the drugs they give out. I've known several people with cancer that trusted the "medical experts" and took the standard therapies. They all died very soon after. I've also known people that used alternative treatments, and they are still alive. The medical experts have made blunders, and will religiously persecute anyone that has a viewpoint that is not the same as theirs, as they are all one big happy family. I will listen to the doctors, but I take what they say with a huge grain of salt, as I've seen many I wouldn't take my dog to. You can ridicule me if you like, but at least I am confident in the knowledge that I can think for myself.

I think that I have been clear in saying make a educated decision .........Don't want to get it for personal reasons ...DON'T ........I'm not really sure when this became a" US "against "THEM" debate ........I just want everyone to be informed .........If medicine was a exact science we would all be out of jobs............

[mach123]

I agree with everyone that is not taking the vaccine, one day there is H1N1 and the next there is a vaccine. I never get the flu shots or anything in that matter. 2 years ago family and I was going to Punta Cana and everybody was saying that you need to get shots for malaria, virusess and so on, so we all did. 1 week into our trip i got so sick down there that I was on 5 different meds and needed to get injections in my stomech for a week after, I have never been that sick in my life. I travel all over and never had a problem before. So they can stick that were the sun really doesn't shine....Enjoy for all the ones that do......

[ZRrrr]

Originally Posted by fargineyesore

Don't believe everything you hear from the medical community either. If they are so knowledgeable and pure of intent, why are their cancer treatment therapies such a joke? Why is it that there are such terrible side effects from the drugs they give for mental illness? It isn't heresay, my nephew has mental problems and has bad side effects from the drugs they give out. I've known several people with cancer that trusted the "medical experts" and took the standard therapies. They all died very soon after. I've also known people that used alternative treatments, and they are still alive. The medical experts have made blunders, and will religiously persecute anyone that has a viewpoint that is not the same as theirs, as they are all one big happy family. I will listen to the doctors, but I take what they say with a huge grain of salt, as I've seen many I wouldn't take my dog to. You can ridicule me if you like, but at least I am confident in the knowledge that I can think for myself.

If you look at the number of deaths in the US attributed to "medical mistakes" it's mine boggling. Waaay more than any pandemic. Seasonal flu takes out about 36,000 people annually in the US. Each year in the US about 10,000 people are killed walking across MARKED crosswalks and getting smoked by a vehicle.

If anyone bothered to look at the death rate stats table I posted from Stats Can/Health Assoc., actual deaths attributed to indectious disease is actually at the bottom of the list. Unintentional accidents is near the top in all age groups.

My Sister and nephew went and stood in line for 2 hours to get the shot. Nephew developed the flu that night. Likely cuaught it from some of the sick people waiting along side them. Sooo...you go get the shot but are at a higher risk for contracting the flu....

Go figure!?

[Junior Highmark]

HOW BOUT THEM CALGARY FLAMES???

They got to skip the line to get the shot in because they are considered "High risk" because they make contact with another team every once in a while.

Police men, Fire fighters, Parademedics! None of them get to skip the 6 hour lines because they are considered high risk.

I watched the news and someone's going to be fired for this =)
If they wanted it that bad, they could have gone state side and used there millions of dollar salary's to pay for it.

Pizz's me right off. That's not right.




Just sayin..

[psycoticmudder]

you are probably better to get it from the line up than to get the shot. just an opinion

[dale dalueg]

H1N1, to get the shot or not.....

Well considering I'm high risk (not near as old as SBR) that was funny Mike , I thought I would go to one of the clinics and get the shot....

Stayed in line for awhile and started to wonder just how safe I was with the hundreds of people standing around coughing and gasping , me thinking they surely would have also been high risk (yes sarcasm ) I finally left wasn't too thrilled at what I saw.

Now, today is day 7 that I have been home sick, started out with the flu then went to full blown H1N1 (yes tested at the vet clinic as mike (all them numbers) calls the place), been on the tamiflu since day 1 and I still feel like crap, I have never been so sick in my life.

I am thinking that maybe instead of telling them I was extremely high risk that maybe I should have told them that I played hockey for the flame maybe I would have been moved to the front of the line, or maybe they would have opened a special clinic then I could have called SBR and said that he was the goalie or something and he could have gotten his shot also..........

Yes I am pizzed, not that I got sick, pizzed at the whole way they rolled out the botcher of a program that they did. I hope, I really hope someone answers for this huge blunder......

[Sleddingmom]

Originally Posted by dale dalueg

H1N1, to get the shot or not.....

Well considering I'm high risk (not near as old as SBR) that was funny Mike , I thought I would go to one of the clinics and get the shot....

Stayed in line for awhile and started to wonder just how safe I was with the hundreds of people standing around coughing and gasping , me thinking they surely would have also been high risk (yes sarcasm ) I finally left wasn't too thrilled at what I saw.

Now, today is day 7 that I have been home sick, started out with the flu then went to full blown H1N1 (yes tested at the vet clinic as mike (all them numbers) calls the place), been on the tamiflu since day 1 and I still feel like crap, I have never been so sick in my life.

I am thinking that maybe instead of telling them I was extremely high risk that maybe I should have told them that I played hockey for the flame maybe I would have been moved to the front of the line, or maybe they would have opened a special clinic then I could have called SBR and said that he was the goalie or something and he could have gotten his shot also..........

Yes I am pizzed, not that I got sick, pizzed at the whole way they rolled out the botcher of a program that they did. I hope, I really hope someone answers for this huge blunder......

Man!!!!!!!!!! I hope you feel better!