Diesel VS Gas

Slamnek · 10-10-2007, 08:41 AM

I was in the same boat, the most i pull is 2 quads or 2 sleds so i went with a half ton gas and i like it. Having more power pulling through the mountains would be nice but the Chevy does get me there and back averaging around 15-17 mpg depending on how heavy my foot gets.

Ohmz · 10-10-2007, 05:52 PM

sweet....thx for the input guyz....i still dont know what i'm going to do but i'm sure no matter which i chose i'm going to be happy

teamgreen · 10-10-2007, 07:05 PM

I travel back and forth to fort mac and have a 2500 Chev Gasser, was less money to buy, cheaper to fix( look at the price of fuel pumps for a diesel vs gas), fuel prices are almost the same and mine is a little harder of fuel but not by much. I tow around 2 sleds and stuff like that with no problem. My friend has the same truck but in diesel, its faster and tows better only because he has a programmable chip, he also blew the tranny in his and it cost him a pile of money because it was an allison tranny. its all personal preference, kinda like a Cat to a Doo.

rmk800 · 10-10-2007, 10:32 PM

i read a report in a magazine (don't remember which one tho), that was gas vs. diesel. they took the price of vehicle, fuel, fuel mileage, maintainence, and value of trade in. they said it takes 2.3 years for a diesel to pay for itself at 25,000 km a year over a gas. the magazines was a diesel truck magazine.
my vote is diesel .

BIGFOOT · 10-11-2007, 12:29 AM

Originally Posted by Ohmz

hey guys i'm looking at getting a full size truck but cant decide if i want to go with the diesel or gas? i know i'll probably need a 2500 to accomadate the truck camper i want to haul. but i've heard lots of different sides to this one and i need more info before i decide.

Hey Ohmz You are asking a question in which you will get alot of responses to. But you are not giving enough info to what is directed in your question to achieve proper repercussion.

McMOOSE · 10-11-2007, 09:48 AM

I myself have a 3/4 ton gas job. I tow 2 quads sometimes 3 and also have a 28 foot tow behind trailer. The gas job can tow these ok but the truck is getting a good work out for sure. Gas milege goes way down when hauling also. I am going to buy a Diesel in the spring after the wife's vechile is paid off. My experiance with towing with gas jobs has made me realize that DIESEL IS THE WAY TO GO HANDS DOWN.

GETR'DONE · 10-11-2007, 10:01 AM

I am with you on that....

Originally Posted by McMOOSE

I myself have a 3/4 ton gas job. I tow 2 quads sometimes 3 and also have a 28 foot tow behind trailer. The gas job can tow these ok but the truck is getting a good work out for sure. Gas milege goes way down when hauling also. I am going to buy a Diesel in the spring after the wife's vechile is paid off. My experiance with towing with gas jobs has made me realize that DIESEL IS THE WAY TO GO HANDS DOWN.

tekim · 10-11-2007, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by rmk800

i read a report in a magazine (don't remember which one tho), that was gas vs. diesel. they took the price of vehicle, fuel, fuel mileage, maintainence, and value of trade in. they said it takes 2.3 years for a diesel to pay for itself at 25,000 km a year over a gas. the magazines was a diesel truck magazine.
my vote is diesel .

So how long does it take to pay for itself when you put on 80,000 km / yr?!

tekim

Cumminsnorth · 10-11-2007, 10:31 AM

If I did my math right it should take 262days(8.6 months) at 80,00km/year.

Cumminsnorth · 10-11-2007, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by rmk800

i read a report in a magazine (don't remember which one tho), that was gas vs. diesel. they took the price of vehicle, fuel, fuel mileage, maintainence, and value of trade in. they said it takes 2.3 years for a diesel to pay for itself at 25,000 km a year over a gas. the magazines was a diesel truck magazine.
my vote is diesel .

Are you sure it wasn't miles?

sledbunnyracing · 10-11-2007, 10:59 AM

If I read the same article they also stated that pulling power you gained per dollar spent was also well worth the extra investment.
The key to a diesel was "how many miles you put on or how much heavy pulling you did". For both options the diesel wins, otherwise a gas truck will do you just fine.

Originally Posted by rmk800

i read a report in a magazine (don't remember which one tho), that was gas vs. diesel. they took the price of vehicle, fuel, fuel mileage, maintainence, and value of trade in. they said it takes 2.3 years for a diesel to pay for itself at 25,000 km a year over a gas. the magazines was a diesel truck magazine.
my vote is diesel .

Summitric · 10-11-2007, 11:38 AM

Also To Consider Is The Gas Mileage Of Each Vehicle.... My 2002 Gas V-10 Dodge 3500 Dually Was Getting 11.45mpg On Average And Slightly Less With Load(i Drive Hard)......... My New '06 Dodge 3500 Diesel Gets Almost About 20mpg(SLIGHTLY LESS LOADED)......... It Would Pay For Itself Quite Quickly, If I Put On The Mileage That Tekim Puts On(i Only Average Less Than 20,000 Kms/year)

OVERKILL 19 · 10-11-2007, 12:41 PM

I vote diesel. But when I go to the store and I'm more than 5 min I TURN IT OFF. Sorry pet peve. Diesel all the way

teeroy · 10-12-2007, 12:25 PM

there are many different factors to consider (usage wise). I chose the 8.1L gas engine after carefully weighing all the differences. I haven't had to plug it in yet for the cold weather (I use 5-30 synthetic oil) and it has started as cold as -38c, it gets better fuel mileage than the 6L when loaded and is comparable when empty. the best I've seen on the trip computer is 17mpg (US gallons). be careful when you buy a used diesel, stay away from the factory lifted units. they are very hard on tranny/transfer cases. also, over half the diesels out there are not used for the reason that they are made for, towing and hauling. if they are never ran up to max operating temperature, the cylinders will glaze, causing poor fuel mileage and decreased horsepower. if you happen to get any water in your fuel on a diesel, your warranty will be voided and you will have to foot the bill for injectors, and possibly a fuel pump. I can replace the engine in my pickup for less than the cost of those items. call any dealer of any brand and ask which motors are in their shop right now, gas or diesel and you will be surprised at how many diesels are in for repair. I am not a rich man, and keep each pickup I buy for 10 years. stop and go driving, and short trips where the engine doesn't get to temperature are KILLERS for a diesel engine, and the main reason I chose gas. hope this helps.

rknight111 · 10-12-2007, 12:34 PM

I perfer Diesel, for the Truck. I had a gasser once and had issuses when pulling trailers. I pull trailers a fair amount. The 34' - 14200 Holiday trailer or the 27' Enclosed Sled Trailer which I know when loaded is heavy, which usually head out every second weekend. I buy most of my diesel at Flying J in sherwood park where its a hastle but alot cheaper than gas.

10-10-2007, 08:41 AM	#17 (permalink)
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10-10-2007, 05:52 PM	#18 (permalink)
Ohmz Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Edmonton Posts: 7 Casino Cash: $58900 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Diesel VS Gas sweet....thx for the input guyz....i still dont know what i'm going to do but i'm sure no matter which i chose i'm going to be happy

10-10-2007, 07:05 PM	#19 (permalink)
teamgreen Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brandon MB Posts: 328 Casino Cash: $144078 Thanks: 61 Thanked 102 Times in 46 Posts	Re: Diesel VS Gas I travel back and forth to fort mac and have a 2500 Chev Gasser, was less money to buy, cheaper to fix( look at the price of fuel pumps for a diesel vs gas), fuel prices are almost the same and mine is a little harder of fuel but not by much. I tow around 2 sleds and stuff like that with no problem. My friend has the same truck but in diesel, its faster and tows better only because he has a programmable chip, he also blew the tranny in his and it cost him a pile of money because it was an allison tranny. its all personal preference, kinda like a Cat to a Doo. __________________ Team Green Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene.'

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rmk800 Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: whitecourt Posts: 311 Casino Cash: $219158 Thanks: 29 Thanked 86 Times in 81 Posts	Re: Diesel VS Gas i read a report in a magazine (don't remember which one tho), that was gas vs. diesel. they took the price of vehicle, fuel, fuel mileage, maintainence, and value of trade in. they said it takes 2.3 years for a diesel to pay for itself at 25,000 km a year over a gas. the magazines was a diesel truck magazine. my vote is diesel . __________________ rmk800 07 chev duramax 06 polaris dragon 120 (for the kids) 06 660 grizzly 05 31 ' corsair 5 th wheel (bunk model) 02 rmk 800

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BIGFOOT Moderator Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Stony Plain Posts: 2,396 Casino Cash: $1389694 Thanks: 1,143 Thanked 784 Times in 535 Posts	Re: Diesel VS Gas Originally Posted by Ohmz hey guys i'm looking at getting a full size truck but cant decide if i want to go with the diesel or gas? i know i'll probably need a 2500 to accomadate the truck camper i want to haul. but i've heard lots of different sides to this one and i need more info before i decide. *Hey Ohmz You are asking a question in which you will get alot of responses to. But you are not giving enough info to what is directed in your question to achieve proper repercussion.* __________________ *RMK* *MIKE* *900/166* "*BIG-FOOT*"

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10-11-2007, 09:48 AM	#22 (permalink)
McMOOSE Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Leduc Posts: 9 Casino Cash: $92912 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Diesel VS Gas I myself have a 3/4 ton gas job. I tow 2 quads sometimes 3 and also have a 28 foot tow behind trailer. The gas job can tow these ok but the truck is getting a good work out for sure. Gas milege goes way down when hauling also. I am going to buy a Diesel in the spring after the wife's vechile is paid off. My experiance with towing with gas jobs has made me realize that DIESEL IS THE WAY TO GO HANDS DOWN. __________________ 07 Arctic Cat 700EFI 03 Yamaha Kodiak 450

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GETR'DONE Moderator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Calgary Posts: 2,471 Casino Cash: $1323980 Thanks: 1,672 Thanked 609 Times in 427 Posts	Re: Diesel VS Gas I am with you on that.... Originally Posted by McMOOSE I myself have a 3/4 ton gas job. I tow 2 quads sometimes 3 and also have a 28 foot tow behind trailer. The gas job can tow these ok but the truck is getting a good work out for sure. Gas milege goes way down when hauling also. I am going to buy a Diesel in the spring after the wife's vechile is paid off. My experiance with towing with gas jobs has made me realize that DIESEL IS THE WAY TO GO HANDS DOWN. __________________ *GETR'DONE* *CLICK HERE*

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tekim Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Rosalind, AB Posts: 549 Casino Cash: $236680 Thanks: 37 Thanked 128 Times in 89 Posts	Re: Diesel VS Gas Originally Posted by rmk800 i read a report in a magazine (don't remember which one tho), that was gas vs. diesel. they took the price of vehicle, fuel, fuel mileage, maintainence, and value of trade in. they said it takes 2.3 years for a diesel to pay for itself at 25,000 km a year over a gas. the magazines was a diesel truck magazine. my vote is diesel . So how long does it take to pay for itself when you put on 80,000 km / yr?! tekim

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Cumminsnorth Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: G.P. Alberta Posts: 321 Casino Cash: $348523 Thanks: 26 Thanked 51 Times in 38 Posts	Re: Diesel VS Gas If I did my math right it should take 262days(8.6 months) at 80,00km/year. __________________ *GRIFFIN CREEK BOY* 2006 Kawasaki Brute Force 750i 4x4 dynatech cdi, epi clutch kit, muffler mod, 27"swamplites 2006 Yamaha Wolverine 450 stock 2001 Polaris 800 rmk 153"ported track, Struthers ported 03 jugs, slp pipe, slp flowrites, boysen reeds, gutted airbox 2007 31ft Colorado 5th wheel with three slides, rear hitch, 5" lift 2003 Dodge 2500 Quad cab long box 4x4, 4" lift, 5"exhaust, 35" toyo tires, airmax intake, edge ez, lift pump mod, DSG high idle, Pyro, boost, lift pump pressure gauge

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Cumminsnorth Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: G.P. Alberta Posts: 321 Casino Cash: $348523 Thanks: 26 Thanked 51 Times in 38 Posts	Re: Diesel VS Gas Originally Posted by rmk800 i read a report in a magazine (don't remember which one tho), that was gas vs. diesel. they took the price of vehicle, fuel, fuel mileage, maintainence, and value of trade in. they said it takes 2.3 years for a diesel to pay for itself at 25,000 km a year over a gas. the magazines was a diesel truck magazine. my vote is diesel . Are you sure it wasn't miles? __________________ *GRIFFIN CREEK BOY* 2006 Kawasaki Brute Force 750i 4x4 dynatech cdi, epi clutch kit, muffler mod, 27"swamplites 2006 Yamaha Wolverine 450 stock 2001 Polaris 800 rmk 153"ported track, Struthers ported 03 jugs, slp pipe, slp flowrites, boysen reeds, gutted airbox 2007 31ft Colorado 5th wheel with three slides, rear hitch, 5" lift 2003 Dodge 2500 Quad cab long box 4x4, 4" lift, 5"exhaust, 35" toyo tires, airmax intake, edge ez, lift pump mod, DSG high idle, Pyro, boost, lift pump pressure gauge

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sledbunnyracing Administrator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edmonton Alberta, Canada Posts: 14,138 Casino Cash: $7363840 Thanks: 868 Thanked 9,301 Times in 4,254 Posts	Re: Diesel VS Gas If I read the same article they also stated that pulling power you gained per dollar spent was also well worth the extra investment. The key to a diesel was "how many miles you put on or how much heavy pulling you did". For both options the diesel wins, otherwise a gas truck will do you just fine. Originally Posted by rmk800 i read a report in a magazine (don't remember which one tho), that was gas vs. diesel. they took the price of vehicle, fuel, fuel mileage, maintainence, and value of trade in. they said it takes 2.3 years for a diesel to pay for itself at 25,000 km a year over a gas. the magazines was a diesel truck magazine. my vote is diesel . __________________ www.sledbunnyracing.com 07 Rev 800 05 Rev 800 01 RMK 800 Albert "LOST" Beck - Rest In Peace Member of Team Slim

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Summitric Senor Moderator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edmonton/Sherwood Park Posts: 16,685 Casino Cash: $1190820 Thanks: 8,436 Thanked 7,049 Times in 4,052 Posts	Re: Diesel VS Gas Also To Consider Is The Gas Mileage Of Each Vehicle.... My 2002 Gas V-10 Dodge 3500 Dually Was Getting 11.45mpg On Average And Slightly Less With Load(i Drive Hard)......... My New '06 Dodge 3500 Diesel Gets Almost About 20mpg(SLIGHTLY LESS LOADED)......... It Would Pay For Itself Quite Quickly, If I Put On The Mileage That Tekim Puts On(i Only Average Less Than 20,000 Kms/year) __________________ SUMMITRIC www.sledbunnyracing.com 2006 Summit 1000RT Highmark 162"(THUMPER) 2004 Summit 800X 151"(BLACKWRABBIT) 1998 Yamaha 600 Grizzly Member of Team Slim ALBERT BECK - HIGHMARKING IN THE HEAVENS - REST IN PEACE AUTHORIZED OFFICIAL GEARHEAD!

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OVERKILL 19 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Red Deer Posts: 1,120 Casino Cash: $1013309 Thanks: 251 Thanked 324 Times in 231 Posts	Re: Diesel VS Gas I vote diesel. But when I go to the store and I'm more than 5 min I TURN IT OFF. Sorry pet peve. Diesel all the way __________________ Equal rights for everyone...special treatment for no one !!!

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teeroy Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Grimshaw Posts: 1,632 Casino Cash: $142420 Thanks: 542 Thanked 863 Times in 531 Posts	Re: Diesel VS Gas there are many different factors to consider (usage wise). I chose the 8.1L gas engine after carefully weighing all the differences. I haven't had to plug it in yet for the cold weather (I use 5-30 synthetic oil) and it has started as cold as -38c, it gets better fuel mileage than the 6L when loaded and is comparable when empty. the best I've seen on the trip computer is 17mpg (US gallons). be careful when you buy a used diesel, stay away from the factory lifted units. they are very hard on tranny/transfer cases. also, over half the diesels out there are not used for the reason that they are made for, towing and hauling. if they are never ran up to max operating temperature, the cylinders will glaze, causing poor fuel mileage and decreased horsepower. if you happen to get any water in your fuel on a diesel, your warranty will be voided and you will have to foot the bill for injectors, and possibly a fuel pump. I can replace the engine in my pickup for less than the cost of those items. call any dealer of any brand and ask which motors are in their shop right now, gas or diesel and you will be surprised at how many diesels are in for repair. I am not a rich man, and keep each pickup I buy for 10 years. stop and go driving, and short trips where the engine doesn't get to temperature are KILLERS for a diesel engine, and the main reason I chose gas. hope this helps.

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