Originally Posted by scoobienorth 
this is coming from someone with a 450 i would not buy a 450 unless you want to race or ride on a track, or want to mod it for serious power, they will beat you up a bit more riding them and they all take more servicing to keep them up, pesonally i would get a 700 raptor or 700xx. if you dont care to be the fastest or a heavy quad find a ds650, i am sure it would survive a nuclear blast, hands down the toughest quad ever built.
Well I do ride at the track