Horse Rescue up the Renshaw

[tmix]

I'd like to know more about the condition of the horses and why they were not brought out sooner if left there in October. The owner should be fully responsible for all rescue fees and efforts and then fined for animal abandonment. Shouldn't matter if they bucked him off or if they were crazy horses or maybe just the owner is crazy, but there still are more humane ways to discard your pets!!! If there was an emergency or accident it could of been dealt with before the snow fell too much. Do they still have the tack on or were they turned out loose?

[rknight111]

Originally Posted by amyjane20

Is there a paypal system or anything so we can give donations?

I cant send out receipts but I can get the money to Barry (Bbtoys) and this will help the horses. I will let you all know what kind of funds we raise for this. I'll pitch in as well.

https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/websc...ton_id=2000099

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[karbz700]

I can agree with all in this situation. Its always amazing to see people coming together to help someone or something. My only concern is about this trench that is being dug. Will it get filled back in. I really wouldnt want see the aftermath of someone hitting a six foot hole. It would be really hard to see with a little scuff of snow.

[sumx54]

Originally Posted by karbz700

I can agree with all in this situation. Its always amazing to see people coming together to help someone or something. My only concern is about this trench that is being dug. Will it get filled back in. I really wouldnt want see the aftermath of someone hitting a six foot hole. It would be really hard to see with a little scuff of snow.

Mother nature will look after filling in the trench . Its all good

[CR500R]

Just going to throw this out there, I'm sure someone has already probably thought of it, but would it not be possible for the groomer to pull up a small 1 or 2 place horse trailer if there were some skis made to go on or in place of the tires? Would only take a couple hours and some welding to build and be alot more familiar to the horses and less expensive than the chopper.

[bbtoys]

It is through the trees and very few people except locals and a few others that know the way through there will be using this area. Not to worry. A bird is most likely not an option at this time and if we get them to to trail we may have to close the trail for a short time to get them down to the parking lot. Will see in the next couple of days.

[Sara Olofsson]

Originally Posted by barefooter

Guys:

I know I am going to take some flack for this - but this appears to be a whole lot of effort for little or no upside. So let the flaming begin. Let me preface this with the fact that I own a large number of horses and other animals, and would be considered by most who have met me to be an animal lover. But I think emotions in these situations overtake reason.

In my opinion, I think the most humane thing to do in the circumstances is to quickly give them a lead injection. Take the $2,000 or $4,000 or whatever it is going to cost to get these horses out of there, and give it to the Salvation Army, Christmas Bureau, etc. to give some kids a chance this Xmas.


So - lets say you actually get a chopper to come in to sling these horses out - after you get a vet up there to sedate them, etc. This would be nothing like getting a sled out - they move on their own. Plus generally - horses are unpredictable and generally idiots in any situation where they are frightened.

What happens next? The idiot who left them there sure as h*ll isn't going to claim them - so they end up in the "pound" according to the various livestock acts. They have to keep them for 60 days, and after that are sold. Bottom end horses right now are going for slaughter at about $200 to $250 per horse. Appears you would cover less than 20% of the expenses. And they are still going to be dead at the end of it. Better humanely dealing with it up there - than putting these animals through the unessesary stress of trying to get them out.

That is not to say the idiot who got stuck up there shouldn't be dealt with. If it were me - to pay for his stupidity I would march him up there and make him do the deed. I will pass judgement. If they were left up there because some guy got snowed in and couldn't get them out- he should have done the right thing and hiked right back up with a rifle and dealt with the situation humanely. The number of idiots with horses knows no limit - I see it time and time again.

Yes - this is a chitty situation. But sometimes you just have to make a hard decision.

Sorry - rant over.

So here goes....I am still waiting for my first and original post to be approved as many of all these questions will be answered in there.
The horses are there....they are alive.....and in consentual agreement that they have enough left in them to be helped.....of course putting them down was an option but the latter was chosen once they were found.
There is no concern as to the cost of taking them on once out, there is a local line-up to keep these horses permanently.
Everyone is donating their time, resources including food etc. to work on the issue at hand.
The helicopter company is on board based on decisions we make at the end of today (as to the success of using the roadbuilding mats) and yes, the expected costs are quoted at well over $5000 of which the heli company will contribute a percentage.
As to my latest conversation with the SPCA, they would like to avoid the use of a helicopter at the moment (and once again this will be dealt with according to today's progress).
As mentioned the groomer is on board as well, and possible arrangements include hooking up a trailer if possible to transport them out the 30 kms.

So today will find us with new advancements or set-backs and we will all deal with them as we do in this little, wonderful town!

Thank you ALL soooo much!

Sara Olofsson
McBride

[Sledpiggy]

Originally Posted by rknight111

I cant send out receipts but I can get the money to Barry (Bbtoys) and this will help the horses. I will let you all know what kind of funds we raise for this. I'll pitch in as well.

Save the horses **LINK**

I can't seem to make this link work, what am I doing wrong

Thanks for setting this up Ron!

[Wanderlust]

Originally Posted by bbtoys

It is through the trees and very few people except locals and a few others that know the way through there will be using this area. Not to worry. A bird is most likely not an option at this time and if we get them to to trail we may have to close the trail for a short time to get them down to the parking lot. Will see in the next couple of days.

Two thing's that have been on my mind are 1. Are they going to be too tired to walk out on their own and 2. are they going to be able to walk out with out punching through?

Still waiting to hear from the chopper company-unless has someone else been in touch today and got a return call??? Will phone again in the next few minutes.

Frig......nothing quite like dial up. Sorry didn't see your last post Sara re. chopper nice to see that we're all on board with this.

[CR500R]

Here's a pic we took of the horses back on Nov 11. Only seen the 2 of them then, so if there was 3 it died earlier. Glad to see there is finally an effort to get them out, not surprised to hear a lawyer was involved in this, out for himself and that's it, that's why they are the scum of the earth. I hope when all is said and done someone takes the owner and this lawyer to court for their stupidity. Kudos to all involved in this effort.

[Wanderlust]

Got word from Yellowhead Helicopters in Valemount who have got multiple calls today from other concerned locals regarding the removal of the horses. I see that Sara has recently posted some other info about costs/spca and so don't want to step on toes. There are obviously a few of us working on some solutions and there are some great guys working up there right now who I think would also like to know what's going on once they get down.
A few things in my conversation with the fellow from Yellowhead was having to use a bigger machine hence the bigger price tag, the horses must be sedated, another factor of course is the wind chill on these guys (flying through the air at -20 brrrr just thinking about it), the helicopter does not need to land but will long line instead if there is someone ready to clip them in. He figures 25 minutes back and forth between cabin area (or bowl) to the staging area. 2 hours total flying time.
I keep mentioning this, but these horses are now getting food, and as a friend and fellow snowandmudder said, these guys could end up being very well taken care of all winter by other snow and mudders and I believe it when I read everyones' major support for this.

[Wanderlust]

Originally Posted by Wanderlust

Got word from Yellowhead Helicopters in Valemount who have got multiple calls today from other concerned locals regarding the removal of the horses. I see that Sara has recently posted some other info about costs/spca and so don't want to step on toes. There are obviously a few of us working on some solutions and there are some great guys working up there right now who I think would also like to know what's going on once they get down.
A few things in my conversation with the fellow from Yellowhead was having to use a bigger machine hence the bigger price tag, the horses must be sedated, another factor of course is the wind chill on these guys (flying through the air at -20 brrrr just thinking about it), the helicopter does not need to land but will long line instead if there is someone ready to clip them in. He figures 25 minutes back and forth between cabin area (or bowl) to the staging area. 2 hours total flying time.
I keep mentioning this, but these horses are now getting food, and as a friend and fellow snowandmudder said, these guys could end up being very well taken care of all winter by other snow and mudders and I believe it when I read everyones' major support for this.

So this is about 4 cents worth now, but I'm kind of thinking that the monetary donations (for the chopper) shouldn't happen until we know if it's even safe to move these horses out by chopper. There are some key people who have been dealing with these horses since Sunday, who probably have a lot to say. What do you think???

[Sara Olofsson]

Just a quick update! SPCA will be in contact with me tonight after I get the run-down from Matt. There are developments with helicopters and the like, and we'll see what tomorrow brings.

[scotts]

I hope if animal cruelty or abandonment charges are laid that the name of the scumbag laywer is released to the public.

[teeroy]

Originally Posted by scotts

I hope if animal cruelty or abandonment charges are laid that the name of the scumbag laywer is released to the public.

it should be made public anyways. can't be lible or slander if it factual information. release the name.....

has anyone notified any other news publications, or other media? they would be all over this, not only as a xmas "feelgood" story about efforts of the volunteers and community spirit shown by the area residents, but maybe in the interest of justice as well.....

[Caper11]

Hey Glen, and Sara when are the horses planning to be moved? I'm very happy to hear that they have survived this long, After last weekend I had doubts that they would.
A big thumbs up to everyone involved!!!