Horse Rescue up the Renshaw

[snowseeker]

Originally Posted by rsw84

not passing judgement either but i am also a horse owner and would never treat em in such a way..... would you leave yur sled/quad back in there for someone else to take the responsibility of bringing back out>>? didnt think so!! im sure we could scrape together some cash but it would be cool if we could find out who the owner is before...... ???

I would agree with that staement 100%. I hate seeing animals treated like that. So what kinda of shape is the horses in? They must be getting sick or thin?

[fargineyesore]

Originally Posted by sheldon11

Well that is a crappy thing and if somone was willing to organize a chopper sling trip out for these two horses i would be willing to throw in a couple of hundred bucks so lets see if we can get enough money together i can't see it being more than a couple of thousand dollars......anyone who knows about doing somthing like this pm me....here is my pledge, lets get this going and see if we can save these horses.......

I had a friend get his sled out by chopper last year in Renshaw, and it cost him $2000.00. You'd need two trips, so you can double that. If the chopper company would help out (reduce rate?) it may be possible. I'd help out two, but one has to also consider, if the horses are rescued, where do they go then? Is there someone in the area that would be willing to take them and care for them? If not, they'd be in the same boat as now. If not, then it would be better to get them down to an altitude that has much less snow, then, as horses are a hardy breed, they would be able to survive by pawing for feed. Wild horses do this, the problem in this case is that the animals are in an area that doesn't allow for pawing as the snow is too deep.

[rsw84]

so who is the mystery plow-boy ?????
we were coming back to town from the renshaw parking lot at about 8:30
on friday night dec 12 and there was a couple people on the side of the road looking for lost horses. i cant imagine them looking for the same ones ????
but either way im guessing there isnt a whole buncha a water out there or food or shelter so im guessing by the time something happens these horses there not gonna have the strength to walk out or to be lifted out

[heyjude]

Originally Posted by snowseeker

just a question how did they get up there in the first place? Also once we get them out by the cabin who says that they will go down the trail?
That might sound stupid but I am confused of why their there. I am planning on comming up this weekend.

They are mountain pack horses whose owner got stuck in a snowstorm. The horses were very tired and could not go any further. Some sledders gave the guy (from Edson/Hinton area) a ride out, but the horses were abandoned. The guy never came back to get them when the weather got better.

Personally, I think the guy should be charged (or left out in the cold to freeze and starve).

Anyways, there is a big group of locals working to get them out. They have been taking food up to them all week and the horses are eating and getting some strength back. The guys are physically digging a path in the deep snow for them (about a kilometer+ long). The horses will then be led out to the snowmobile trail about km27 and on down the mountain. There are alot of people here that are working very hard to save these horses. Gotta love McBride!!!!!

[snowseeker]

Can we get the groomer up or a quad up to push some of the snow? just a question might be a dumb one but might make it faster and easier?

[rsw84]

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Personally, I think the guy should be charged (or left out in the cold to freeze and starve).

im liking the latter !!!

[fargineyesore]

Originally Posted by heyjude

They are mountain pack horses whose owner got stuck in a snowstorm. The horses were very tired and could not go any further. Some sledders gave the guy (from Edson/Hinton area) a ride out, but the horses were abandoned. The guy never came back to get them when the weather got better.

Personally, I think the guy should be charged (or left out in the cold to freeze and starve).

Anyways, there is a big group of locals working to get them out. They have been taking food up to them all week and the horses are eating and getting some strength back. The guys are physically digging a path in the deep snow for them (about a kilometer+ long). The horses will then be led out to the snowmobile trail about km27 and on down the mountain. There are alot of people here that are working very hard to save these horses. Gotta love McBride!!!!!

Kudos to these guys. It makes me wonder about this guy. If the snow was deep enough for sledders, what's he doing there with horses anyway? The owner should be charged for abandoning them, and be somehow barred from bringing horses up there again. You have to take responsibility for your domestic animals, you can't just let them starve.

[barefooter]

Guys:

I know I am going to take some flack for this - but this appears to be a whole lot of effort for little or no upside. So let the flaming begin. Let me preface this with the fact that I own a large number of horses and other animals, and would be considered by most who have met me to be an animal lover. But I think emotions in these situations overtake reason.

In my opinion, I think the most humane thing to do in the circumstances is to quickly give them a lead injection. Take the $2,000 or $4,000 or whatever it is going to cost to get these horses out of there, and give it to the Salvation Army, Christmas Bureau, etc. to give some kids a chance this Xmas.


So - lets say you actually get a chopper to come in to sling these horses out - after you get a vet up there to sedate them, etc. This would be nothing like getting a sled out - they move on their own. Plus generally - horses are unpredictable and generally idiots in any situation where they are frightened.

What happens next? The idiot who left them there sure as h*ll isn't going to claim them - so they end up in the "pound" according to the various livestock acts. They have to keep them for 60 days, and after that are sold. Bottom end horses right now are going for slaughter at about $200 to $250 per horse. Appears you would cover less than 20% of the expenses. And they are still going to be dead at the end of it. Better humanely dealing with it up there - than putting these animals through the unessesary stress of trying to get them out.

That is not to say the idiot who got stuck up there shouldn't be dealt with. If it were me - to pay for his stupidity I would march him up there and make him do the deed. I will pass judgement. If they were left up there because some guy got snowed in and couldn't get them out- he should have done the right thing and hiked right back up with a rifle and dealt with the situation humanely. The number of idiots with horses knows no limit - I see it time and time again.

Yes - this is a chitty situation. But sometimes you just have to make a hard decision.

Sorry - rant over.

[fargineyesore]

Originally Posted by barefooter

Guys:

I know I am going to take some flack for this - but this appears to be a whole lot of effort for little or no upside. So let the flaming begin. Let me preface this with the fact that I own a large number of horses and other animals, and would be considered by most who have met me to be an animal lover. But I think emotions in these situations overtake reason.

In my opinion, I think the most humane thing to do in the circumstances is to quickly give them a lead injection. Take the $2,000 or $4,000 or whatever it is going to cost to get these horses out of there, and give it to the Salvation Army, Christmas Bureau, etc. to give some kids a chance this Xmas.


So - lets say you actually get a chopper to come in to sling these horses out - after you get a vet up there to sedate them, etc. This would be nothing like getting a sled out - they move on their own. Plus generally - horses are unpredictable and generally idiots in any situation where they are frightened.

What happens next? The idiot who left them there sure as h*ll isn't going to claim them - so they end up in the "pound" according to the various livestock acts. They have to keep them for 60 days, and after that are sold. Bottom end horses right now are going for slaughter at about $200 to $250 per horse. Appears you would cover less than 20% of the expenses. And they are still going to be dead at the end of it. Better humanely dealing with it up there - than putting these animals through the unessesary stress of trying to get them out.

That is not to say the idiot who got stuck up there shouldn't be dealt with. If it were me - to pay for his stupidity I would march him up there and make him do the deed. I will pass judgement. If they were left up there because some guy got snowed in and couldn't get them out- he should have done the right thing and hiked right back up with a rifle and dealt with the situation humanely. The number of idiots with horses knows no limit - I see it time and time again.

Yes - this is a shitty situation. But sometimes you just have to make a hard decision.

Sorry - rant over.

Can't disagree. Unfortunately, there are way too many idiots that own horses that don't know the first thing about them, and as noted before, if someone doesn't claim them and care for them when they get down, the result will be the same. Regardless, the people that are trying to rescue them deserve a a lot of praise for their heart, whatever the outcome.

[glengine]

When these horses get out of the hills there are local people that have farms that will be caring for these horses and nurseing them back to life.. The guy left them there and told one guy that they were there and he supposedly went up a few times to try and get them with no success.. But he also didn't bother to say anything to other locals as there would have been alot of us who would have dealt with it then, and it would have been alot easier to get them out then.. The horses are in quite poor shape right now, but they are eating and there taking also taking up some horse blankets for them today as well.. We in mcbride would WAY rather bring them out alive if possible, which appears to be going to happen.. If they weren't going to be able to be brought out then they would have been put down so as that they wouldn't suffer.. But they should be able to be brought out which is great news..

[06 Dragon]

Should drag the owners ass back up there and leave him with no food,water or shelter for five days, see how much he enjoys it.

[fargineyesore]

That's good news for sure.