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Dogbite · 11-27-2007, 09:43 PM

ICBC classifies snowmobiles as snow vehicles, snow cats are classified as snow vehicles also.
The best example of where similar protection to protect public safety is provided in the Forest and Range practices act. In the Forest service road use regulation in section 3.3 It states the following:

(3) A person must not operate a snowmobile on a forest service road if it appears that the road has been snowplowed, or that the road is otherwise fit for travel by motor vehicles other than snowmobiles.

The reason that this law is in place is in place is to protect the public from collisions with large heavy vehicles coming down slippery roads. BRC’s snowcat roads are 2-3 times as steep as a normally logging road and much narrower – so this same issue applies – but the risk of a serious collision is even greater.
Therefore, snowcats are deemed in the same category and are not exempt from the regulation either.

KierenGaul said, "However last winter we had a persistent problem with some snow mobilers coming up from Washington state, and 2 sled skiers. The result of this has been that we have has 2 accidents and 5 near misses on our snowcat roads."

I think that this statement is the basis for Big Red Cats application. What BRCs wants to do is restrict everyone else from the area because of a "[COLOR="Red"]persistent problem with some snow mobilers coming up from Washington state and 2 sled skiers[COLOR="Black"]". I think that this is a very weak agrument for a blanket restriction.

If the Washington sledders are entering Canada without passing through a border portal, then Customs and Immigration and the RCMP should be notified and I'm sure that the US Border Agencies would be happy to receive that information as well.

As far as "sled skiers" are concerned, these individuals have evolved along with snowmobile use as well and should have the same access rights as anyone else. Afterall, what came first, the snowmobile or the snowcat/trailgroomer? I can appreciate the fact that an increase in "sled skiers" would be a detriment to BRC's business, but I don't see it as a reason to restict snowmobile access to the back country.

11-27-2007, 09:43 PM	#14 (permalink)
Dogbite Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: On the far side of the mountain Posts: 12 Casino Cash: $49098 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts No Classified Ratings	Re: Sledding Area at Risk ICBC classifies snowmobiles as snow vehicles, snow cats are classified as snow vehicles also. The best example of where similar protection to protect public safety is provided in the Forest and Range practices act. In the Forest service road use regulation in section 3.3 It states the following: (3) A person must not operate a snowmobile on a forest service road if it appears that the road has been snowplowed, or that the road is otherwise fit for travel by motor vehicles other than snowmobiles. The reason that this law is in place is in place is to protect the public from collisions with large heavy vehicles coming down slippery roads. BRC’s snowcat roads are 2-3 times as steep as a normally logging road and much narrower – so this same issue applies – but the risk of a serious collision is even greater. Therefore, snowcats are deemed in the same category and are not exempt from the regulation either. KierenGaul said, "However last winter we had a persistent problem with some snow mobilers coming up from Washington state, and 2 sled skiers. The result of this has been that we have has 2 accidents and 5 near misses on our snowcat roads." I think that this statement is the basis for Big Red Cats application. What BRCs wants to do is restrict everyone else from the area because of a "[COLOR="Red"]persistent problem with some snow mobilers coming up from Washington state and 2 sled skiers[COLOR="Black"]". I think that this is a very weak agrument for a blanket restriction. If the Washington sledders are entering Canada without passing through a border portal, then Customs and Immigration and the RCMP should be notified and I'm sure that the US Border Agencies would be happy to receive that information as well. As far as "sled skiers" are concerned, these individuals have evolved along with snowmobile use as well and should have the same access rights as anyone else. Afterall, what came first, the snowmobile or the snowcat/trailgroomer? I can appreciate the fact that an increase in "sled skiers" would be a detriment to BRC's business, but I don't see it as a reason to restict snowmobile access to the back country.