Snowpulse Airbag vs ABS????

avalanchesafety · 10-14-2008, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by Caper11

Me too, How puncture resistant is this bag? And does the Snowpulse come with the bottle regulator so you can fill it to the recommended 3000PSI off of a 4500 PSI breathing air bottle? And Haggis brings up a good point is there any pics of a person wearing a helmet while the bag is deployed?

I will try to get a picture out later today with a sled helmet on. Yes we can sell you a regulator to fill off a 4500psi scba (scott or other) pack. The adapter has a pressure relief valve and large guage. The bottle does not come with any sort of regulator as that would put the price way up. In terms of being pucture resistant the Snowpulse airbag uses a similar material to that found in car airbags. In the CE certification process they put over 300kg on the bags as well as brick drop tests to see if the bag will puncture or burst. I myself have jumped on the bag on pavement and use this as a small demonstration.

Uturn · 10-14-2008, 12:07 PM

Does the snowpulse have a probe pocket and where is shovel storage? I really like the external shovel pouch, but it seems both airbags rely on internal storage.

avalanchesafety · 10-14-2008, 04:16 PM

The Snowpulse 30 and 45 have a pocket and sleeves for your probe and shovel and a separate compartment for the rest of your gear.

For pictures of the inside of the pack and for a picture with my buddy Aaron wearing a sled helmet with the Snowpulse you can go to Get Your Snowpulse Backpack From Avalanche Safety Solutions

T-nytro · 10-14-2008, 04:27 PM

Anyone who says that breathing air does not freeze up regulators has never been in a SCBA in cold weather. Bull Sh*t. They have and will on occasion freeze. It DOES happen. I have had acouple start to freeze up. I work in a Sour Gas plant (30%) we wear SCBA all the time. Dont kid yourself.

Caper11 · 10-14-2008, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by T-nytro

Anyone who says that breathing air does not freeze up regulators has never been in a SCBA in cold weather. Bull Sh*t. They have and will on occasion freeze. It DOES happen. I have had acouple start to freeze up. I work in a Sour Gas plant (30%) we wear SCBA all the time. Dont kid yourself.

Yah I ran into this last winter on a callout to a compressor to change valves, it was about -30C and my breathing air mounted in my service body would not supply enough air to work using the work mask, I also had a backpack in the cab of my truck so I had to use that.
I would rather use nitrogen, why couldn't you just fill the bottle with nitrogen.

avalanchesafety · 10-14-2008, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by T-nytro

Anyone who says that breathing air does not freeze up regulators has never been in a SCBA in cold weather. Bull Sh*t. They have and will on occasion freeze. It DOES happen. I have had acouple start to freeze up. I work in a Sour Gas plant (30%) we wear SCBA all the time. Dont kid yourself.

I cannot comment on the SCBA tank freezing but there is NO regulator to freeze up on the Snowpulse. I am told that as part of the testing they put the Snowpulse in a shower, then put it in a freezer and then pull it to see if it works, and it did.

avalanchesafety · 10-14-2008, 07:06 PM

new24stroke · 10-14-2008, 08:07 PM

Still have not seen a price yet

tekim · 10-14-2008, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by new24stroke

Still have not seen a price yet

It's listed on their website store.

Get Your Snowpulse Backpack From Avalanche Safety Solutions

tekim

kgr · 10-15-2008, 03:07 PM

i heard that this snowpulse design is similar to the design that ABS abandoned years ago.

T-nytro · 10-15-2008, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by avalanchesafety

I cannot comment on the SCBA tank freezing but there is NO regulator to freeze up on the Snowpulse. I am told that as part of the testing they put the Snowpulse in a shower, then put it in a freezer and then pull it to see if it works, and it did.

The air has to come out of the bottle canister some how. Its not like it is coming out a 1 inch hole. It will be coming out a small hole which will be prone to freezing with any sort of moisture.

qvperformance · 10-15-2008, 04:32 PM

We will have a Snowpulse Life Bag 30L @ the store after the Edmonton show
if you are not able to make it to the show you can have a look then. Will also
take orders for them at that time. $1149.00 + gst.

10-14-2008, 11:16 AM	#25 (permalink)
avalanchesafety Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Golden, BC Posts: 22 Casino Cash: $48000 Thanks: 1 Thanked 40 Times in 15 Posts No Classified Ratings	Re: Snowpulse Airbag vs ABS???? Originally Posted by Caper11 Me too, How puncture resistant is this bag? And does the Snowpulse come with the bottle regulator so you can fill it to the recommended 3000PSI off of a 4500 PSI breathing air bottle? And Haggis brings up a good point is there any pics of a person wearing a helmet while the bag is deployed? I will try to get a picture out later today with a sled helmet on. Yes we can sell you a regulator to fill off a 4500psi scba (scott or other) pack. The adapter has a pressure relief valve and large guage. The bottle does not come with any sort of regulator as that would put the price way up. In terms of being pucture resistant the Snowpulse airbag uses a similar material to that found in car airbags. In the CE certification process they put over 300kg on the bags as well as brick drop tests to see if the bag will puncture or burst. I myself have jumped on the bag on pavement and use this as a small demonstration.

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avalanchesafety Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Golden, BC Posts: 22 Casino Cash: $48000 Thanks: 1 Thanked 40 Times in 15 Posts No Classified Ratings	Re: Snowpulse Airbag vs ABS???? Originally Posted by T-nytro Anyone who says that breathing air does not freeze up regulators has never been in a SCBA in cold weather. Bull Sh*t. They have and will on occasion freeze. It DOES happen. I have had acouple start to freeze up. I work in a Sour Gas plant (30%) we wear SCBA all the time. Dont kid yourself. I cannot comment on the SCBA tank freezing but there is NO regulator to freeze up on the Snowpulse. I am told that as part of the testing they put the Snowpulse in a shower, then put it in a freezer and then pull it to see if it works, and it did.

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T-nytro Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Whitecourt Posts: 202 Casino Cash: $396389 Thanks: 0 Thanked 57 Times in 48 Posts No Classified Ratings	Re: Snowpulse Airbag vs ABS???? Originally Posted by avalanchesafety I cannot comment on the SCBA tank freezing but there is NO regulator to freeze up on the Snowpulse. I am told that as part of the testing they put the Snowpulse in a shower, then put it in a freezer and then pull it to see if it works, and it did. The air has to come out of the bottle canister some how. Its not like it is coming out a 1 inch hole. It will be coming out a small hole which will be prone to freezing with any sort of moisture. __________________ 2008 Boosted Nytro few extra parts. 2009 Rhino with a few extra parts 2009 F150 MEMBER OF THE BOOST BULLIES

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