Snowpulse Airbag vs ABS????

[avalanchesafety]

Originally Posted by woodies

i'll chip in my 2 cents.check them out a bit more.heard some negs.air regular freeze,limited visability and head movement,as for the air versus nitrogen to breathe issue,whats air made up of?nitrogen at around 80%!also tree hugger owned!!!a bird told me this,so take it for what it worth,i'm strapping a abs to my azz this fall!

Snowpulse distributer here again. As i stated in my last post (which i hope shows up soon) there i absolutely no risk of air freeze up if it is filled with dry air, which is what it is supposed to be filled with. As for restricting head movement and vision, YES when it is inflated it does restrict your head movement and some lateral vision. However you still have plenty of forward vision, and you can still keep your hands on the bars. I would say that holding your head is a good thing.

[avalanchesafety]

Originally Posted by woodies

i'll chip in my 2 cents.check them out a bit more.heard some negs.air regular freeze,limited visability and head movement,as for the air versus nitrogen to breathe issue,whats air made up of?nitrogen at around 80%!also tree hugger owned!!!a bird told me this,so take it for what it worth,i'm strapping a abs to my azz this fall!

I explained in my last e-mail about the freeze up and tree hugging. Adressing the issue of limited head movement and visibility, YES the airbag does limit your head movement (quite a lot in fact) but i do not think this is a bad thing if your are being ragdolled down the mountainside. It also does restrict some lateral vision, however you still have good forward vision and your arms are free to move around and hang on to the bars for dear life.

[avalanchesafety]

Originally Posted by Adrenaline Addiction

Thinking about buying one of the Snowpulse, think its a good idea using breathing air to oxygenate the snow around you when deployed. They dont hold the pressure do they?

The Snowpulse airbag is designed to deflate slowly so that if an avalanche victim is buried (no airbags are full proof) then they have 150L of air around them to slowly leak out, hopefully oxygenating the space around you. Also if you were partially buried or buried and then a section of the airbag was reveiled you could slice the airbag with a knife instantly giving the avalanche victim space and air.

[Haggis]

They look interesting. I agree more products on the market (that have been properly tested and approved) the better. More people using this type of technology, more avalanche awareness and more lives saved.

Question from the pics above - couldn't help but wonder what happens to your head with a person wearing a big helmet - is your head pushed down towards your chin - anyone else think this looks like a birth????

[Haggis]

Originally Posted by avalanchesafety

I explained in my last e-mail about the freeze up and tree hugging. Adressing the issue of limited head movement and visibility, YES the airbag does limit your head movement (quite a lot in fact) but i do not think this is a bad thing if your are being ragdolled down the mountainside. It also does restrict some lateral vision, however you still have good forward vision and your arms are free to move around and hang on to the bars for dear life.

Like the idea of slicing with a knife for extra airspace. - but is that not a bit far fetched??? Remember from my avalanche course that most slides set up like concrete withing a few seconds of slide comin to a stop - if you are buried good look trying to free your knife out of your inside jacket pocket. How londg do they take to slowly deflate. Are they CSA approved??

Just to clarify - With a sledding helmet on if your head is pushed down and helmet likely rolled forward a little - you have no vision. Am I missing something here???

[avalanchesafety]

Originally Posted by Haggis

Like the idea of slicing with a knife for extra airspace. - but is that not a bit far fetched??? Remember from my avalanche course that most slides set up like concrete withing a few seco.nds of slide comin to a stop - if you are buried good look trying to free your knife out of your inside jacket pocket. How londg do they take to slowly deflate. Are they CSA approved??

Just to clarify - With a sledding helmet on if your head is pushed down and helmet likely rolled forward a little - you have no vision. Am I missing something here???

In terms of cutting the airbag with a knife, i meant that this is possible for the rescue party if you are partially or fully buried. As you stated avalanche debris sets up rock hard very quickly.

The Snowpulse is not CSA approved. There is currently no certification process for airbags in North America. They are CE approved as personal protective equipment, which is the European certification.

With a sled helmet on, the release of the airbag definitely does push your head down slightly. I just released one again with a helmet on to remind myself how much. It pushes your head down slightly but you are still able to see straight ahead, if that makes sense.

[northstar23]

Any chance of injury to your neck or head when the snow pushes up from the back side of the air bag.

[avalanchesafety]

Originally Posted by northstar23

Any chance of injury to your neck or head when the snow pushes up from the back side of the air bag.

I am sure that it is possible, some avalanches are extremely violent. However my personal opinion is that the risk is no greater than not having an airbag around your head. It also stops your head being pushed backwards and hurting your neck that way.

[Quagmire]

Will you be at the Edmonton snowmobile show?
Steve

[avalanchesafety]

Originally Posted by summit

Will you be at the Edmonton snowmobile show?
Steve

YES, we will be attending all of the sled shows. You can find us right near the entranceway.

[new24stroke]

What is the Price for one of these.Interested

[Caper11]

Originally Posted by new24stroke

What is the Price for one of these.Interested

Me too, How puncture resistant is this bag? And does the Snowpulse come with the bottle regulator so you can fill it to the recommended 3000PSI off of a 4500 PSI breathing air bottle? And Haggis brings up a good point is there any pics of a person wearing a helmet while the bag is deployed?