rekluse clutch info needed

sumx54 · Jun 26, 2011

Anyone running these on their thumpers? I'm looking for a review. I currently ride a KTM 450 SX-F. These Bikes are notoriously known for their hot running stock clutches and you don't dare idle the bike in gear for very long without an overheating problem. I'm wondering how the REKLUSE clutch performs on these 450's. I'm hearing they are the new rage for bush riding

any info would be appreciated on the subject thanks. Jbb You use one don't you?

Rekluse Canada. Canadian Distributor for Rekluse Motor Sports makers of the industry leading auto clutch for Dirt Bikes and ATV - Z-Start Pro Clutch

suzuki_ryder · Jun 26, 2011

Uhh...it won't make your bike not over heat... That's not the purpose of that system. When you pull the clutch lever on your stock bike it engages the clutch and the plates slip as you obviously know, but in the rekluse it always slips until the hub spins fast enough to throw the 9 steel balls outwards to apply pressure on the plates. And most of the heat is coming from the combustion chamber, relying on small radiators without a fan to keep it cool on idle

To answer your other question, I've ridden a bike with one and it's really hard to get used to and didn't like it. I like coming into corners, pulling the clutch with a hand full of throttle to get my rev's up and dumping it, while the rekluse you can't, making it harder to ride. I would say save your money and look for bigger radiators, or dont idle your bike while your stopped and talking with your buddies. :beer:

dooryder · Jun 27, 2011

i think hes talking about the clutch over heating not the bike it self

suzuki_ryder · Jun 27, 2011

A clutch wont generate heat when it's engaged. since the pressure is relieved from the clutches it won't created enough friction to make heat. If you are burning clutches from being in gear, you need to adjust it.

suzuki_ryder · Jun 27, 2011

Also try using a different oil. I switched to motul for a bit which made my clutch slip. Went back to yamalube, with no problems again

teeroy · Jun 27, 2011

hey Darcy, if you are into hill climbing they are kind of a freaky thing....when you can't make a hill and have to stop the bike goes into "neutral" and won't hold itself....somewhat unnerving, especially if the hill is crazy steep. when I asked about it on TT someone said you need to replace your clutch lever with a left hand rear brake lever.

better not try stuff like this unless you're sure you can make it?

sumx54 · Jun 27, 2011

dooryder said:
i think hes talking about the clutch over heating not the bike it self

EXACTLY... I'm not talking about trying to keep my bike from overheating. If you have ever ridden a KTM thumper you would know what I'm talking about. The clutch engaged with it in gear while idling creates a sh!t load of heat. Just wondering if a rekluse would add to this problem. Is all

jbb · Jun 27, 2011

sumx54 said:
Anyone running these on their thumpers? I'm looking for a review. I currently ride a KTM 450 SX-F. These Bikes are notoriously known for their hot running stock clutches and you don't dare idle the bike in gear for very long without an overheating problem. I'm wondering how the REKLUSE clutch performs on these 450's. I'm hearing they are the new rage for bush riding any info would be appreciated on the subject thanks. Jbb You use one don't you?

Rekluse Canada. Canadian Distributor for Rekluse Motor Sports makers of the industry leading auto clutch for Dirt Bikes and ATV - Z-Start Pro Clutch

im running one on my ktm 380 2 stroke right now. the bike in the tight nasty stuff would over heat pretty easy. since installing the rekluse and going to a slightly higher temp rad cap its not near as bad. 2 buddies have them on there crf450 and they work so much better. the flame out when there hot is eliminated. another thing were running if heavier flywheel weights to. in the tight nasty stuff you can let the rpm drop to almost nothing and it'll keep pulling and wont stall. have you tried an electric fan behind your rads? ive seen someppl doing that to help stop over heating in the tight stuff to.

jbb · Jun 27, 2011

suzuki_ryder said:
Uhh...it won't make your bike not over heat... That's not the purpose of that system. When you pull the clutch lever on your stock bike it engages the clutch and the plates slip as you obviously know, but in the rekluse it always slips until the hub spins fast enough to throw the 9 steel balls outwards to apply pressure on the plates. And most of the heat is coming from the combustion chamber, relying on small radiators without a fan to keep it cool on idle

To answer your other question, I've ridden a bike with one and it's really hard to get used to and didn't like it. I like coming into corners, pulling the clutch with a hand full of throttle to get my rev's up and dumping it, while the rekluse you can't, making it harder to ride. I would say save your money and look for bigger radiators, or dont idle your bike while your stopped and talking with your buddies.

your wrong about the not being able to use your clutch. they still work. theres different models of rekluse. theyve changed a lot over the last few yrs. the problemive seen with rekluses are home installers. they dont set them up right.

jbb · Jun 27, 2011

teeroy said:
hey Darcy, if you are into hill climbing they are kind of a freaky thing....when you can't make a hill and have to stop the bike goes into "neutral" and won't hold itself....somewhat unnerving, especially if the hill is crazy steep. when I asked about it on TT someone said you need to replace your clutch lever with a left hand rear brake lever.

better not try stuff like this unless you're sure you can make it?

your right on it being like its in neutal. one of the few cons about them. but after a yr of using a rekluse. id never own abike with out one again. the pro's out way any cons.

jbb · Jun 27, 2011

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjlsXNAElh0&feature=related[/media]

now watch this and imagine a flameout or stall.

teeroy · Jun 27, 2011

jbb said:
your right on it being like its in neutal. one of the few cons about them. but after a yr of using a rekluse. id never own abike with out one again. the pro's out way any cons.

sounds to me it just makes it easier to ride....what's next, training wheels so it won't fall over? lol....

suzuki_ryder · Jun 27, 2011

sumx54 said:
EXACTLY... I'm not talking about trying to keep my bike from overheating. If you have ever ridden a KTM thumper you would know what I'm talking about. The clutch engaged with it in gear while idling creates a sh!t load of heat. Just wondering if a rekluse would add to this problem. Is all

I rode a ktm once. I've never seen any of my friends yamaha's, or Kawasaki's, or any customers 450's come in with over heating clutches. By over heating your pulling you clutch cover off and inspecting for blacken'd disc's no? Cause once they're black, they're frigged which could be why it's slipping. I'm not trying to be an ass if you think that's how I'm coming off. Just trying to understand to help that's all.

takethebounce · Jun 27, 2011

teeroy - you are correct. It does make the bike easier to ride, but its not something everyone likes. It allows you to ride the bike, even cheat a little and ride a gear higher than you might normally try as there is no fear of stalling the bike.

Rekluse has three different models available, the newest one is an updated version of their trail system. It is basically the CORE EXP system, but uses your stock fibres/basket and other internals, but gives you the EXP setup for half the price.

You do not have to lose your clutch lever with any of the new systems. Many people opted to remove it though and have a rear brake setup on their bars.

I don't have a 450SXF, but my buddy does. They do have small rads, as they are meant for the track and constant movement. Engine ice was a good improvement for cooling and he hasn't had any overheat since going with the EngineIce. I put a new higher cap on my 250 as well as the Engine Ice and it made a big difference.

With the way the Rekluse functions, it disengations at idle. As rpm's increase the centrifugal force engages the hub and starts turning with more force applied. So regardless if the bike is in gear or not, the clutch is basically open. I would expect if anything lower temps generated as there is constantly fluid travelling through the plates.

If you haven't asked on TT on the KTM forum, those guys would be a great source of info as well.

sumx54 · Jun 27, 2011

That's some good info, thanks. I'm mostly a technical rider, tight single track, trees, skegs and hare scramble racing. I've heard good things about the rekluse but I'm a little apprehensive about taking the plunge. I definitely don't need training wheels :d and I like whacking the throttle on the big steep stuff. Might take a bit of getting used to

I'm scared of installing a fan just cause I have no backup start other than the e-start. Hate the idea of running the risk of a dead batt. I manage my heat good for now as long as the rekluse won't add to the equation. I might try one if I can get over the Girly idea of an automatic dirt scooter :d thanks

Mike270412 · Jun 27, 2011

I'll go riding with you next week, make you look like a pro!

sumx54 said:
That's some good info, thanks. I'm mostly a technical rider, tight single track, trees, skegs and hare scramble racing. I've heard good things about the rekluse but I'm a little apprehensive about taking the plunge. I definitely don't need training wheels :d and I like whacking the throttle on the big steep stuff. Might take a bit of getting used to
I'm scared of installing a fan just cause I have no backup start other than the e-start. Hate the idea of running the risk of a dead batt. I manage my heat good for now as long as the rekluse won't add to the equation. I might try one if I can get over the Girly idea of an automatic dirt scooter :d thanks

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sumx54 · Jun 27, 2011

Mike270412 said:
I'll go riding with you next week, make you look like a pro!

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FOR REAL? Are you going to be riding The four fiddy or the farm implement ? Giggyup.

Mike270412 · Jun 27, 2011

Might take that bike for a rip see if I can hurt myself

sumx54 said:
FOR REAL? Are you going to be riding The four fiddy or the farm implement ? Giggyup.

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teeroy · Jun 27, 2011

Ray....does the rekluse take away your engine braking effect? in that vid it sounds like it goes to idle when he's going downhill. my youngest was sitting beside me watching it and says "Dad, that bike sounds just like mine!" .......he rides a Z50R....lol

jbb · Jun 27, 2011

teeroy said:
sounds to me it just makes it easier to ride....what's next, training wheels so it won't fall over? lol....

easy answer is yes it does. cuts down arm pump to (really it does) you can have 5 trees criss crossed and you can skip over them with ease. with a clutch you may get the first few then you better have a talented clutch hand.

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