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Nothing like being unprepared hey?

Pretty amateur rescue...
Yup, I imagine it's tough to stay calm but panicking isnt going to solve anything.

Sled don't walk, it's faster and safer.
Beacons out.
 

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Can any translate this for me.
Some guys go full acronym in this MIN reports.

Cold day at the parking lot (-20 at 0900 hrs). Day remained cold in the shade (-18 at 1145 hrs at about 1700m). HS 197 cm in area probed. 60 cm snow overlies Dec SH/FC combo. SH 3 - 4 mm. The upper 60 cm is composed of 30 cm F on top of 30 cm 4F sitting on top of the SH/FC combo. Test results on NE aspect at about 1700m were CTH 24 SP dn 60 on the December SH/FC layer. In the area skied, evidence of surface sluffing to size 1-1.5. Ski test on small steep (40 degrees) slope produced only surface sluffin (top 30 com). Ski quality was excellent however we stayed away from steeper terrain with convexities.

Cold day at the parking lot(-20 at 0900 hrs). Day remained cold in the shade (-18 at 1145 hrs at about 1700m). HS (Height of Snow) 197 cm in area probed. 60 cm snow overlies Dec SH/FC (Surface Hoar/Freeze Crust). SH (Surface Hoar sized 3-4 mm).
The upper 60cm is composed of 30cm F (Fist) on top of 30cm 4F (Four Finger) sitting on top of the SH/FC combo. Test results on NE (North East) aspect at about 1700m were CTH 24 SP dn 60 (Compression Test Hard 24 Sudden Planer Down 60 cm) on SH/FC (Surface Hoar/Freeze Crust) layer.......

Most of these Acronyms are quickly explained in most AST courses.. give Curtis at Frozen Pirate a call and get yourself educated by one of the very best in the industry. With a bit of practice you'll be reading MIN's like a pro!
Books like "Staying Alive In Avalanche Terrain" by Bruce Trempler or "The Avalanche Handbook" David McClung,as well as the Av Canada fieldbook are good references for the acronyms in question!
 

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Cold day at the parking lot(-20 at 0900 hrs). Day remained cold in the shade (-18 at 1145 hrs at about 1700m). HS (Height of Snow) 197 cm in area probed. 60 cm snow overlies Dec SH/FC (Surface Hoar/Freeze Crust). SH (Surface Hoar sized 3-4 mm).
The upper 60cm is composed of 30cm F (Fist) on top of 30cm 4F (Four Finger) sitting on top of the SH/FC combo. Test results on NE (North East) aspect at about 1700m were CTH 24 SP dn 60 (Compression Test Hard 24 Sudden Planer Down 60 cm) on SH/FC (Surface Hoar/Freeze Crust) layer.......

Most of these Acronyms are quickly explained in most AST courses.. give Curtis at Frozen Pirate a call and get yourself educated by one of the very best in the industry. With a bit of practice you'll be reading MIN's like a pro!
Books like "Staying Alive In Avalanche Terrain" by Bruce Trempler or "The Avalanche Handbook" David McClung,as well as the Av Canada fieldbook are good references for the acronyms in question!
Thanks man that is helpful, and definitely makes sense.

I am currently reading through the avalanche handbook.
Took my AST 1 with Curtis.
Waiting on an AST 2 date to line up.

Cheers
 

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Thanks man that is helpful, and definitely makes sense.

I am currently reading through the avalanche handbook.
Took my AST 1 with Curtis.
Waiting on an AST 2 date to line up.

Cheers

If your talking about the Handbook by McClung, its good and has a lot of info but it's pretty tough reading, Get ahold of "Staying alive in Avalanche Terrain" by Bruce Tremper, although American its written more in laymens terms!
 

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I was thinking more like.....

use a shovel, or bring your tools to the burial site.. if you have em..

Yup, I imagine it's tough to stay calm but panicking isnt going to solve anything.

Sled don't walk, it's faster and safer.
Beacons out.
 

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I was thinking more like.....

use a shovel, or bring your tools to the burial site.. if you have em..
I am sure now that the victim is watching the video his confidence level in his riding partners has dropped significantly.
 

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And please put down the farking camera. If I found out my buddies were filming me instead of helping I would likely change riding partners. I know videos are cool but Id rather to be alive.


This is a pretty cool thread. Good job folks.


I was thinking more like.....

use a shovel, or bring your tools to the burial site.. if you have em..
 

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definitely get "staying alive in avalanche terrain". Great read for anyone that spends time in winter in the backcountry. All on real world situations in places you most likely ride in. Great learning tool to see what others may or may not have done in avalanches with the worst of outcomes. Ast2 is also a must. Well worth the money. Took mine last winter with zacs in revy. After riding in the mountains for 12 years, this is something I should have done a long time ago.
 

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And please put down the farking camera. If I found out my buddies were filming me instead of helping I would likely change riding partners. I know videos are cool but Id rather to be alive.


This is a pretty cool thread. Good job folks.
Hey Curtis could you maybe speak a little to the different modes these persistent hoar layers will heal?

Or if there ever will......
 

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http://www.avalanche.ca/blogs/baby-its-complicated


"Here in the forecasting office, we feel like the warming (which has mostly been in the alpine) and the problem (buried surface hoar at and below treeline) are yet to really meet. However, as soon as they do, a slab will form, the surface hoar’s knees will buckle and they will fly off into raptures of mad, passionate avalanches together. Or maybe it only happens like that in books.

We’ve been talking about the snowpack being at a tipping point for days, but it hasn’t quite tipped. Or maybe, somewhere, it’s tipping right now. Did I mention that it's tricky?"
 
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That is seriously crazy.
In golden in silvermines i seen the aftermath of a slide that ran down from half way up one side of the mountiain, across the flat meadow we rode in on, and and quarter way up the side of the mountain across from it. I couldn't believe my eyes, this video is a real eye opener I think this slide tops it. Now ive seen this ill be evaluating my location at all times as to what areas could run into the area im currently in.
 
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