honda 4man trouble

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hey guys just picked up a 1996 honda forman 400 off my dads freind its gona be the new mud machine , but its not running right , apperntly the top end was just rebuilt ,but the thing wont rev it gets to what i would guess to be about 2000 rpms and thens spudders and back fires and just wont rev i thought it was the valves so i adjusted them and they seem to be fine i just dont know what else todo i cleaned the carb took the timeing chain cover off and the chain dosent apper to be all that lose but then again i dont know how tights it is saposed to be . what do you guys think this could be ? it will idle and run pretty good till about 2 grand thenn start crapping out :rant: i wana go for a ride on this bad boy haha let me know what you think and thanks in advance for you help !

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The enrichener on that carb can sometime be a real PIA to get seated. Does the lever feel normal?
 

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Sounds like it may be out of time by a tooth. I'd check that first. Also is the battery in good shape? A bad battery will make them do that too.
 

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humm well the battery is enough to start the bike but barely, i have the timeing chain cover off so is there 2 marks to line up on the two gears? i want to make sure that good befor it goes back together lol then il check some other things like the battery and carb . but i forgot to say that when ideling there is a very loud sound comeing from the motor sounded like the valves ticking but they are at 006 were they should be so i dono what the sound could be :confused:

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a honda will run for ever unlike the rest there slow and gutless though i want to get mine running right so i can go rideing soon! anyone have anyother ideas at all?
 

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Did it run okay right after it was rebuilt?
Cam timing and compression are okay?
 

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evrything seems to be good it has a lot of compression but it all back together and it looks like its getting too much gas the air filter was wet with gas. i found out the quad has all new valves,piston,rings and it smokes a bit blue could that be from too much gas? also i dont see any air-fuel screw on the carb like most things ?
 

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well i was just rideing it around the yard and it runs fine untill a certin rpm (2000) ish then it craps out could it be electrical or something ? it seams to be doing the same thing my dads grizzly dose when in reverse its like it hits the rev limiter . if you dont rev it high you can ride it around fine i just dont get it
 

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Does it still have the stock air box/filter etc installed? Carb slide moves freely?
 

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In slide I mean the plastic thingy that is opened up by vacuum. Sits under the cap on top with the diaphragm. Check the diaphgragm also.
 

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It sort of sounds like there is some dirt in the jets or something like that.If the air filter is wet with fuel i would think that the carb itself has to be the problem.
 

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well i just went out and put the needle in the carb all the way down and it runs better but not how it sould still but it dose run quite a bit better
 
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